McKenzie: "Leafs preparing several creative proposals for Tavares if he hits UFA."

[nturn06]

I wonder how the negotiations with AM will proceed if the Leafs do that. I can see AM's agent having a blast if the leafs do that...

 

[mcpw]

He produced better in his +1 season than Stanley, and Morrissey by a long shot. His +1 season is with that of elite company.

That doesn't make him a blue chip prospect. Andrei Svechnikov and Elias Pettersson are blue chip prospects. Not some 19yo who just got picked in the second round. As I said, please stop using that term.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Just let me ask this hypothetical question.


The leafs get Tavares....does Kadri become available?

I'd say Nylander becomes available. Kadri is on a great contract which would be crucial if we signed JT and signed Marner and Matthews in the future. Nylander for a dman of a similar age or younger who's NHL ready and wouldn't require a contract for a few years.

 

[Menzinger]

No, his skillset is irreplaceable on the Leafs. Nylander will be traded.

Actually I suspect neither will be.

The D man market isn’t great and Leafs won’t take a bad deal for the sake of making a trade

 

[CBJx614]

I'd say Nylander becomes available. Kadri is on a great contract which would be crucial if we signed JT and signed Marner and Matthews in the future. Nylander for a dman of a similar age or younger who's NHL ready and wouldn't require a contract for a few years.

Yeah but we can't get him without trading someone we REALLY don't wanna trade

 

[HC7]

That doesn't make him a blue chip prospect. Andrei Svechnikov and Elias Pettersson are blue chip prospects. Not some 19yo who just got picked in the second round. As I said, please stop using that term.

Durzi produced better than players such as Morgan Rielly, Mikhail Sergachev, and Olli Juolevi in their +1 years. Durzi was a major market inefficiency that Dubas saw. He outproduced every +1 D in the CHL this past season. I'm not saying he's as good as the 2 you stated, but he's still a blue chip prospect. You could say McDavid was a blue chip prospect, does that mean those 2 you listed are not?

 

[HC7]

Yeah but we can't get him without trading someone we REALLY don't wanna trade

Leafs are fine keeping all their players so I'm not sure the issue. Jackets can keep their #1 C P-L Dubois and Leafs will keep their complementary players such as Nylander, and Kadri.

 

[HC7]

I wonder how the negotiations with AM will proceed if the Leafs do that. I can see AM's agent having a blast if the leafs do that...

GSW was fine after they signed KD...

 

[mcpw]

Durzi produced better than players such as Morgan Rielly, Mikhail Sergachev, and Olli Juolevi in their +1 years. Durzi was a major market inefficiency that Dubas saw. He outproduced every +1 D in the CHL this past season. I'm not saying he's as good as the 2 you stated, but he's still a blue chip prospect. You could say McDavid was a blue chip prospect, does that mean those 2 you listed are not?

"Blue chip players are those who have proven themselves to be among the best at their positions in their respective sports and are more sought after and wanted than other players.[1] They are typically perceived as "can't miss" prospects[2] who are desired by most organizations. Blue chip athletes are likely to have an immediate impact on teams that acquire them[2] and have proven skills rather than speculative or untapped potential."

Unless Durzi makes the Leafs in a top4 role this fall and plays it well, he's not a blue chip prospect. That's what "blue chip" means. There were only two, maybe three or four blue chippers drafted this year.

 

[HC7]

"Blue chip players are those who have proven themselves to be among the best at their positions in their respective sports and are more sought after and wanted than other players.[1] They are typically perceived as "can't miss" prospects[2] who are desired by most organizations. Blue chip athletes are likely to have an immediate impact on teams that acquire them[2] and have proven skills rather than speculative or untapped potential."

Unless Durzi makes the Leafs in a top4 role this fall and plays it well, he's not a blue chip prospect. That's what "blue chip" means. There were only two, maybe three or four blue chippers drafted this year.

Elias didn't make Canucks out of camp... Durzi was arguably the best D-Man in the CHL this past season and all the polls and coaches agreed.

Call him what you want but he's a highly touted prospect.

 

[mcpw]

Elias didn't make Canucks out of camp... Durzi was arguably the best D-Man in the CHL this past season and all the polls and coaches agreed.

Call him what you want but he's a highly touted prospect.

As long as you stop using that term.

 

[ViewsFromThe6ix]

Just let me ask this hypothetical question.


The leafs get Tavares....does Kadri become available?

No. Leafs play a borderline #1C back to back 30+ goal scoring matchup center making only 4.5M for the forseeable future in the 3C spot and enjoy seeing how other teams matchup against that.

 

[HC7]

As long as you stop using that term.

BLUE CHIP BLUE CHIP BLUE CHIP DURZI DURZI DURZI

 

[Isaac Nootin]

Except their top pair isn't all that great. Especially from a defensive standpoint. Andersen was facing like 40+ shots a night last season.

33, but your 40+ number was so very close!

 

[HC7]

Johnsson - Tavares - Marner defensively > JVR - Bozak - Brown defensively

 

[Territory]

Johnsson - Tavares - Marner defensively > JVR - Bozak - Brown defensively

By far. Bozak is horrible defensively.

 

[nturn06]

GSW was fine after they signed KD...

Yea, Curry was more than happy to earn much less than KD... [/sarcasm]

 

[613Leafer]

By far. Bozak is horrible defensively.

Somebody will probably give him ~5M+ this offseason. If you're bad defensively and need high offensive zone starts + easy QoC to even be somewhat effective, you should be a ~60+ point player.

 

[PunkRockLocke]

(1x15,900,000)+(8x9,387,500) = $91,000,000 over nine years

 

[HandshakeLineRespect]

(1x15,900,000)+(8x9,387,500) = $91,000,000 over nine years

Poetic.

 

[johnnybbadd]

I have Tavares staying an Islander at about 85%. I’m not going to get my hopes up that he will become a Leaf but I would love it so much if he did. I am a huge fan of his and love the way that he plays. I can see the Leafs keeping Kadri for this year but when Matthews and Marner get paid it will be very hard to keep everyone. This is where the 3rd year that we gave to Marleau might bite us in the butt.

 

[Brobust]

Slighty, lol ....

Check out their production at the same age. Carter was around 35 goals and Kadri's at 30-32 goals. They played similar minutes etc.

 

[Voight]

Why not focus on defense instead?

Thinking is to move Nylander in a package for one.

 

[Voight]

Good thing for Toronto is, unlike when they tried to sign Brad Richards & Stamkos, they still have a bonafide #1 C if it doesn't work out. So they don't have their hopes and dreams riding on a potential free agent signee.

 

[McDrailers]

in B4 Justin Beiber becomes the leafs ambassador ala Drake and the Raptors.

Go to leafs nations JohnnyT, they can give you a boyfriend boyfriend he can be your boyfriend.