zeke
The Dube Abides
- Mar 14, 2005
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Was it elite skill?
Heavier skill?
Harder working skill?
it was similar skill, that received more icetime.
Was it elite skill?
Heavier skill?
Harder working skill?
Was it elite skill?
Heavier skill?
Harder working skill?
If you don’t pressure the D, most NHL players can look top 2 all night. And play 20+ minutes/game without wearing down.They won puck battles, especially the Bergeron line. And the Leafs let McAvoy and that other runt Dman run scot-free.
you guys realize that the coyotes beat us with speed, speed, and more speed, right?
You realize this guy had the Stanley Cup handed to him at the end of last season?
And hogdog boy Phil Kessel came off back-to-back cups, one of which he could have easily taken home the Smythe.
What's your point?
I don't know what magic fix people are looking for personnel-wise. We already have a pair of elite #1C's, elite #1RW's, a Norris contender, a solid #2 now with Muzzin and a world-class goalie.
This lackadaisical and underwhelming play the team brings on some nights has so little to do with grit/toughness. We've whoooped Winnipeg, Nashville, Vegas, Washington etc... when our team comes ready for battle, grit/toughness be damned.
What needs to happen is for us to make better use out of the players we already have. I have no idea why people expect the team dynamic to magically change if Simmonds and Gudas get brought in. All it would be is a monumental waste of assets.
You realize this guy had the Stanley Cup handed to him at the end of last season?
Good Canadian kids, sitting there in the penalty boxImo it’s fairly crazy how important some folks think adding a random gritty top 9 winger is. Apparently it’s on the same level of impact as Matthews or Rielly...
And you have 12ish other seasons he didn’t win the cup....
You realize this guy had the Stanley Cup handed to him at the end of last season?
only took him 15yrs to overcome the "biggest choker ever" label.
only took him 15yrs to overcome the "biggest choker ever" label.
And we will find out if it’s the right talent.Good Canadian kids, sitting there in the penalty box
"Watch the other team score" I say dryly
Watching those high skilled Europeans with their passing, skating and their scoring, and all that spatial awareness and dedication to fundamentals, fans of Canadian hockey on them wish a pox
Enough with this grit and win now, but more simply having more talent then any other team seems to be the praiseworthy thinking of Dubas, who is thinking rather slyly,
Really? As a Leaf fan you're going to throw that stone?
Too funny Zeke.
So your argument is that playing with a bit of an edge and not being afraid to throw a hit kept him from winning a cup for 12ish seasons ?
No.
Just pointing out that supposed “edge” to his game was hardly a decisive factor in most of his team’s cup attempts.
Disclaimer: Im danish and a big Andersen supporter, so bias probably inc
I've noticed that teams are starting to get in Andersen's face more and more - standing in his face, touching him, slashing his hands etc - with little to no answers from the leafs team.
Imo this teams needs to show their golie (mvp so far) some respect and stick up for him. In Anaheim he got disrespected by the management because they did anything for their little goldenboy Gibson, but at least the team defended him much better (including starplayers like getz and perry). I used to think the ducks were soft, but this is really getting concerning to me. You can say a lot about Polak but at least he got the concept of "protecting your golie". Look what happens in Boston when players get in their golies face.
In Denmark we were always told to make it hurt when players got in our golies face - cross check, punch em, slash em... just do something... because thats what the big boys in Canada always did. I see that more in our local games now (average players built like marner ffs) than in leafs games.
This is just going to get worse come playoffs - and it will not do anything good for Andersens game. It needs to be addressed fast
He's a big boy, I'm sure he can handle it.
He's a big boy, I'm sure he can handle it.
Yeah I have actually. If the other team does something illegal they will get a penalty for it which helps the team. If our guys start slashing and whacking players who aren't committing an infraction, we're going to get penalties. Seems stupid to me.Its not the issue... its about respect and trust in your team. Going the extra mile for your teammates. It's about leadership and the will to win. Have you ever played high level team sports?
Yeah I have actually. If the other team does something illegal they will get a penalty for it which helps the team. If our guys start slashing and whacking players who aren't committing an infraction, we're going to get penalties. Seems stupid to me.