Didn't you guys just trade a first for an injured player?
If that was disclosed to the TML and they ignored it then our GM and the entire top brass should be fired. Certainly not a good look.
Didn't you guys just trade a first for an injured player?
You never know how fast a rebuild can go. if we never hit on Nylander, Marner and then Matthews our rebuild would have lasted alot longer.They won't be contending for a while
Detroit is still in asset accumulation mode in the short-term. The best and possibly second best player on the next good Wings team hasn't been drafted yet. Now is not a great time to overpay for a player's prime years. Save that for the captain.
Get the pick/prospect and sign a free agent looking to rebuild value in his place.
In other news,,,,the Leafs are interested in everyone...Freidman recently came out and said the Leafs have interest in Tyler Bertuzzi, I'm conflicted with the possibility of this acqusition.
On one hand if he's healthy he fits beautifully with Matthews and Marner or Tavares and Nylander.
on the other he wasn't healthy last season and that's a concern.
I'm not against it I'd be interested to see the price
He's a scum bag but would be a fan favourite in Toronto. One of those guys you can't stand if he's on the other team, but once he's on yours that opinion changes fast. The ask is what would scare me. I'm assuming they would want someone like Sandin.
That is from Detroit's POV. What is Bert's POV on the situation? Takes 2 sides to come to an agreement especically as the player approaches UFA. More leverage on the player side vs coming out of ELC.
I do agree we are top heavy and should spread out the $, which includes trading Matthews and Marner.
Why would Detroit even remotely do the first trade? Tyler Bertuzzi with a reasonable extension is worth far more then futures and 2 guys that Don't have single NHL experience under their belts yet.I think Bertuzzi would have to come with an extension. I'd happily stack a pile of prospects for Bertuzzi. The Leafs have no picks to share. But, with only a year to FA and being arbitration eligible to move someone like Rodion Amirov++ or Liljegren++ for someone who could dart in a year is just poor asset management. If they can work something out beforehand I'd pay full price. If he were to come without an extension I would cut the ++ and make it a straight up trade.
With extension
Rodion Amirov + Topi Niemela + SDA for Tyler Bertuzzi (4.5M per for 5 years)
Without extension
Rodion Amirov for Tyler Bertuzzi (RFA rights)
I looked at Detroit's list of picks and figure that a prospect who is advanced in his development may not be that bad instead of more picks.
Fair assessment. Although his overpays in trade are slight at most. Not a Marleau/Zaitsev level overpay. But if Barrie had played in Toronto like he did last season in Edmonton, plus Kerfoot not breaking his face a dozen games into the season.....all of a sudden that trade looks hella different.I'd entertain an offer as a Wings fan. No use arguing with Leafs fans over what we all think the value is, though. I'd just look at Yzerman's track record of fleecing teams in trades and Dubas' record of slightly overpaying in most of his trades. I'm sure we'd get a decent haul. If not, Yzerman just won't sell low...as that's not how he operates.
Glendening is probably staying in Detroit, And rumors have it that Blake Coleman wont sign with any Canadian team. he wants the States only.Leafs should sign Glendening and Coleman
On what planet do you think that you can resign Hyman and take Bertuzzi on? Hyman wants $5M+ and Bertuzzi is going to be similar to Hyman if we sign him long term. You can't afford Hyman now let alone adding Bertuzzi to the mix.Bertuzzi is the perfect compliment on the second line provided we somehow bring back Hyman.
Hyman - Matthews - Marner
Bertuzzi - Tavares - Nylander
Very complete top six there. Hope the two teams can come to an agreement on a fair deal.
Probably in the Zach Hyman range 5 x $5,500,000 i'd imagine.What kind of contract is he looking at? A year from UFA, I feel like he could get expensive fast.
Why would Detroit even be remotely interested in Timothy Liljegren? Right now it's doubtful he's any better then Troy Stecher at best Liljegren is a bottom pairing RD in Detroit as he's sure not going to get Top 4 minutes over Hronek and Seider RD isn't a need unless Toronto wants to give us a LD and no Dermott isn't the answer then Toronto has nothing of value that we need.I'd do that for Bert you would have to throw in another 2nd for Givani
So liljegren 22 1st 22 2nd and 23 2nd
For Bert and givani
well that a non starter for a guy who's is 1) a pending UFA 2) coming of a season where he was injured all yearRobertson at bare minimum.
Umm not sure if you seen what Stevie got for mantha but don’t expect any less of an overpayment to get Bert, mantha went for a top 6 winger (more like first line) a first a second and panik, it’s gonna cost you exactly what he said if you wanna pry bert awayThat offer gets us Larkin and Bertuzzi
Insane overpayment
He’s an RFA with one year of team control. Doesn’t mean he is going to sign a one year deal. Any team acquiring him would have access to his medical.well that a non starter for a guy who's is 1) a pending UFA 2) coming of a season where he was injured all year
Muzzin, Spezza, Thornton, Foligno, Simmonds and Bogosian are all Dubas guys. How much more size do you want him to bring in? Half the roster is 6'2" or above
And yet Jack Eichel has a herniated disc in his neck, And will get back a kings ransom, And FyI if we deal Bertuzzi he will be under long term control we're not moving him with only one year left that's not happening. If Robertson isn't in the deal then Bertuzzi wont be playing in Toronto it's that simple.well that a non starter for a guy who's is 1) a pending UFA 2) coming of a season where he was injured all year
I guess we'll have to wait and see potentiallyAnd yet Jack Eichel has a herniated disc in his neck, And will get back a kings ransom, And FyI if we deal Bertuzzi he will be under long term control we're not moving him with only one year left that's not happening. If Robertson isn't in the deal then Bertuzzi wont be playing in Toronto it's that simple.
And yet Jack Eichel has a herniated disc in his neck, And will get back a kings ransom, And FyI if we deal Bertuzzi he will be under long term control we're not moving him with only one year left that's not happening. If Robertson isn't in the deal then Bertuzzi wont be playing in Toronto it's that simple.