Rumor: Leafs have inquired about C Luke Glendening

[Liminality]

Even i8f they offered a 2nd, I was told so many times in the Boyle trade that second rounders mean nothing

I think Boyle is better than Glendening, I'd be very surprised if he got a 2nd after all the negotiation.

Who are Glendening's line mates currently? Are they better than Kap and Leo and can he use them better than Moore can? If so I wouldn't mind the trade to upgrade the 4th line.

 

[Cor]

We offered a 5th for Glendening. They want a 2nd.

We’ll meet in the middle with Trevor or Dominic Moore and a 4th

 

[Cor]

I think Boyle is better than Glendening, I'd be very surprised if he got a 2nd after all the negotiation.

Who are Glendening's line mates currently? Are they better than Kap and Leo and can he use them better than Moore can? If so I wouldn't mind the trade to upgrade the 4th line.

Tyler Bertuzzi and Martin Frk

 

[DarkKnight]

I think Boyle is better than Glendening, I'd be very surprised if he got a 2nd after all the negotiation.

Who are Glendening's line mates currently? Are they better than Kap and Leo and can he use them better than Moore can? If so I wouldn't mind the trade to upgrade the 4th line.

Boyle was WAY better than Glendening.

 

[Liminality]

Tyler Bertuzzi and Martin Frk

Doesn't seem like the worst line mates tbh. Wonder how the Wings fans think of their play.

 

[Cor]

Doesn't seem like the worst line mates tbh. Wonder how the Wings fans think of their play.

They really like Glendening, so I assume good

 

[Liminality]

They really like Glendening, so I assume good

Seems like his contract of 1.8m till 2020/21 would be a perfect fit too.

 

[Boutette]

They really like Glendening, so I assume good

I've read enough of them hoping Glendenning and his contract are sent to the Leafs and his old coach post haste. They are expecting to have a good chuckle when that happens.

 

[WilliamNylander]

Nice to hear the OverDrive team talk about how bad Glendening is. They wouldn't even take him for free. Same opinion as many of us in here.

 

[Lightsol]

Hockey media hass to be some of the dumbest media in all of sports. How can anyone even think that makes sense enough to report it?

Worse was the story I saw on the Avalanche Fangraph site I didn't click on, because the title was "Colorado should trade Tyson Barrie to Toronto for Mitch Marner". Just no.

 

[rent free]

Seems like his contract of 1.8m till 2020/21 would be a perfect fit too.

there goes him being traded lol

 

[Polaris1010]

This could be a sure deal.

It was the Soshnikov trade. Who saw that coming?

Suddenly, there is a spot open with the available contracts.

The coach wants this player. Now that the entire league knows, not sure if anyone else will step forward in a bidding war with the Leafs for a bottom 6 player.

 

[Polaris1010]

If this trade actually happens ... next year ...

Marleau - Matthews - Hyman
Kamorov - Kadri - Marner
Kapanan - Nylander - Glenndening
Hyman - Hyman - Hyman

Forgot about Downtown Conner Brown again. Damn, the Leafs are deep.

 

[ottomaddox]

This trade might happen as early as tomorrow.

 

[WilliamNylander]

This trade might happen as early as tomorrow.

Or never

 

[Coachcorner]

This would be absolutely trump huge for our rear ends in the future. Glendeling is a real king who pushes people around and scores on the PK. He doing thangs and moving thangs. Big time. We need that sucka, hard.

 

[Trapper]

This would be absolutely trump huge for our rear ends in the future. Glendeling is a real king who pushes people around and scores on the PK. He doing thangs and moving thangs. Big time. We need that sucka, hard.

I'm for this deal if the price is right.
It solves our 4C moving forward.
He's 28 with 3 years remaining.
Not a rental. He's a righty and that gives us 2 lefties-2 righties at C. He knows Babs, system transition time should be minimal. Can PK, has speed and would look good with Leo/Kappy.
We just need to find a 3C next year or move Willy to C.
Matthews
Kadri
3C or Willy
Glendening
This works for me.

 

[Cor]

Or never

It’s a strong likelihood at this point, will depend on where the price is. Lou seems to be starting low (apparently offering a 5th) and I don’t think many Gm’s can beat Lou in a negotiation, so I’ll bet we are all satisfied with the price.

Luke Glendening would be a fantastic add;

- Great in the draws
- speed
- another good option on the PK
- scoring at a 25 point pace on the 4th line of a low scoring team.
- His analytics, despite a low CF% are strong otherwise. Very strong xGF% (essentially a better Corsi) high defensive zone starts
- draws penalties and doesn’t take much


People for seem reason seem to look at his overall Corsi and scream bloody murder, when that includes his PK Corsi lol.

His 5v5 is in the 46-47% range, which while not good, isn’t horrible awful and could go up to around 50, especially playing with a guy like Kapanen

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

It’s a strong likelihood at this point, will depend on where the price is. Lou seems to be starting low (apparently offering a 5th) and I don’t think many Gm’s can beat Lou in a negotiation, so I’ll bet we are all satisfied with the price.

Luke Glendening would be a fantastic add;

- Great in the draws
- speed
- another good option on the PK
- scoring at a 25 point pace on the 4th line of a low scoring team.
- His analytics, despite a low CF% are strong otherwise. Very strong xGF% (essentially a better Corsi) high defensive zone starts
- draws penalties and doesn’t take much


People for seem reason seem to look at his overall Corsi and scream bloody murder, when that includes his PK Corsi lol.

His 5v5 is in the 46-47% range, which while not good, isn’t horrible awful and could go up to around 50, especially playing with a guy like Kapanen

to be honest, a 4th line of Johnsson - Glendening - Kapanen/Brown looks good to me

his cf% is lousy and his xgf% is actually subpar, but his team sucks so I don't want to put much stock into that. there's a very good chance he's better than Moore and Komarov atm

 

[KDOTO]

I just think similar cost to acquire. I think this is a good move. He is a good defensive C, that works his tail off. He can replace Bozak, nevermind the 4th line. Kappy-Glendening-Brown. Jvr-Bozak duo is a black cloud hanging over this team. Its a no brainer to get a 1st rounder minimum for JVR.

Yeah agree with the one dude that's some crazy expectations for glendening. He is 28, 21 points career high, he has grit but still not that big or heavy of a player. So not much of a guy that will fight the fighters left in the league. I know some people don't care about that but I like to have a Matt Martin but who can play a Tom Wilson.
There a reason he makes what he makes, if he was able to play/produce like a 3rd line center making 1.8 he would be very valuable. Heck Pittsburgh is looking to add a C and that's with shearen scoring at a 40 pace last 20 odd games.
Expecting to replacing bozak with him is a terrible recipe for us. Even with all of bozie negatives, glendening offensive short comings pale in comparison.
We should be looking for bozie replacement if it's not nylander next couple season. Spend but do it for guys like Anisimov, Tierney (would be awesome), or haula(again awesome) etc. A long term solution that will play 3C untill Willie is ready. Then he will hopefully push everyone down a slot.

After watching tonight's game, definitely the Leafs should step up and pay the man to make this trade for Glendening.

This is the type of player that will thrive in Babcock's system. He is fast, he is big. Also, one old player, the coach wanted, it worked out good. Having Brown play anywhere on the team works out good. Babcock knows his players.

As for Bozak and JVR ... IMHO ... there is no way you can trade them at the moment. JVR - Bozak - Brown, all three could be playing their best hockey ever for the Leafs. The top three lines are set. This is the team they will be going into the playoffs with, barring injury.

The 4th line is incomplete. It is Kapanan. He is just not that good at grinding or checking, that part of the game he has not learned yet. He is better offensively than defensively. That is why the 4th line in it own zone looks out of sort. In the other zone it's alright, but generally the team is not counting on offense from the 4th line.

A 2nd draft choice for Glendening.

Or to make it interesting, Holl and a 3rd round draft choice for Glendening.

Maybe Carrick for Glendening, straight up.

Or Levio + 3rd round draft choice for Glendening provided the Red Wings eat part of the salary.

I think the more salary Detroit is willing to eat, the bigger the offer in draft choices could be coming.

Anyone else Babcock likes?

He is not big, I don't know why that keeps getting mentioned. Reminds me of the big number one center we needed in the 2012 draft and lots of people were calling galchunyuk that and he was 6ft then. He not comparable to Boyle because Boyle was a giant compared to him and Boyle would fight not good but he would. Glendening is not, 1 fighting major his whole career. I know fighting is not as needed as before but would be nice to have a someone that can play regularly and willing to drop the gloves when we get push around.

 

[Cor]

to be honest, a 4th line of Johnsson - Glendening - Kapanen/Brown looks good to me

his cf% is lousy and his xgf% is actually subpar, but his team sucks so I don't want to put much stock into that. there's a very good chance he's better than Moore and Komarov atm

His 5v5 xGF% is top 3 on the Wings and over 50% on a lousy team. That’s not “subpar” in my books.

Also, his 5v5CF% is in between 46% and 47%. While not great, it’s not awful.

People need to stop only relying on the James Mirtle’s and Jeff Veilette’s of the world and do some of their own research. As smart as those guys can be with those numbers, they tend to cherry pick stats to form a narrative.

 

[Cor]

Another thing to consider. Glendening plays against stupid high quality of competition. Typically playing against top lines and top defenders.

Babcock matches our 4th line against other teams bottom 6 players, so Glendening would likely be more effective based on that alone

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

His 5v5 xGF% is top 3 on the Wings and over 50% on a lousy team. That’s not “subpar” in my books.

Also, his 5v5CF% is in between 46% and 47%. While not great, it’s not awful.

People need to stop only relying on the James Mirtle’s and Jeff Veilette’s of the world and do some of their own research. As smart as those guys can be with those numbers, they tend to cherry pick stats to form a narrative.

his xgf% is 49.7, although that is still 5th best among forwards. like you said though, bad team
his cf% is 45.4, which is 4th last among forwards on a bad team
he also doesnt deal with tough competition (ranks 8th among forwards)

he's gonna be better than Moore though so who really cares

 

[Cor]

his xgf% is 49.7, although that is still 5th best among forwards. like you said though, bad team
his cf% is 45.4, which is 4th last among forwards on a bad team
he also doesnt deal with tough competition (ranks 8th among forwards)

he's gonna be better than Moore though so who really cares

My numbers were as of like a week ago, and I think the last couple games were rough analytically so he must have fell a little bit.

A high majority of his minutes are against other teams top lines

Not sure how that is easy minutes

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

My numbers were as of like a week ago, and I think the last couple games were rough analytically so he must have fell a little bit.

A high majority of his minutes are against other teams top lines

Not sure how that is easy minutes

he ranks right in the middle of the pack for QoC Toi at 28.89
not easy minutes, but not too tough either