mercury
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And a borderline AHL defense, on top of a goaltending situation that still isn't sorted out. That would be insane.
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And a borderline AHL defense, on top of a goaltending situation that still isn't sorted out. That would be insane.
mercury
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This is why so many Leafs fans on the Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk board have bad reputations. You (Halla, and the ones like you) have no idea how to value other teams' players whatsoever.
No, they really don't.
And being. Top 3 offensive team is great and all, but this just makes us the Oilers, or leads. Not interested.
Flyers have no need to rush the window. Matthews is a great player but the flyers avoid this deal like the plague.
There iant a package in the NHL worth that package. But enjoy thinking you have a player that is, whatever delude world that is.
Easy pass as a Flyers fan. Toronto is also a much better team in 2 years if they make this deal when you factor in salaries and that they don’t have anyone of Provorov’s caliber.
Broad Street Buddies
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You clearly didn't watch the games and are just looking at stats. Only Couturier was better for us as far as forwards go in that series
I wouldn't trade Provorov for Matthews straight up given team needs.
I'd think long and hard about a 1v1 trade in a vacuum at that.
You calling this "garbage" is laughable
The language in this thread is so telling it's hilarious. Matthews is just a 60 point forward but Patrick is a future 1C, and Provorov will be a Norris candidate for the next decade. Those definitely aren't biased takes at all...
Patrick isn't close to establishing himself as a 1C and Provorov has yet to get a single Norris vote. The potential is there, sure, but it's just potential right now.
Matthews is a top 5 goal scorer, #1 at even strength, and went over a point per game as a sophmore. He's also top 5 in takeaways and top 5 among forwards in defensive plays in his own end. Those are things that are true today.
Patrick isn't close to establishing himself as a 1C and Provorov has yet to get a single Norris vote. The potential is there, sure, but it's just potential right now.
Matthews is a top 5 goal scorer, #1 at even strength, and went over a point per game as a sophmore. He's also top 5 in takeaways and top 5 among forwards in defensive plays in his own end. Those are things that are true today.
Pretty funny to see Leaf fans get offended to see Flyer fans say no.
But muh Matthews is almost as good as mcdavid!!!
Seriously... Norris potential D and a 19 year old second overall pick is for leaf fans to say someone would give up instantly if The jesus of hockey himself was on the table.
You all are seriously just too much
(Obligatory “but it’s just leaf hate”)
Both teams decline imo
Such a nitpicky obscure, filtered stat. Why not just go with defensive plays in general? My guess is that it doesn't fit the agenda.
How many votes did Matthews get on any awards?
I'd say the likelihood of Provorov winning a Norris is better than Matthews winning the Hart or Art ross
Yes that is TRUE today. .
Pretty obvious why this thread got made. You do you, HFBoards.
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A lot of reactions but a polite no from the Leafs.
I've been a Provy mark and I sperged when the Leafs took Marner (even though after the Hunter hiring I knew we were taking Marner) and he's even better than I could have hoped for.
I'd still do Marner for Provorov but I don't think much of Patrick so Auston is too special of player to replace but honestly this proposal had me hesitate for a second which is a decent offer.
I've been a Provy mark and I sperged when the Leafs took Marner (even though after the Hunter hiring I knew we were taking Marner) and he's even better than I could have hoped for.
I'd still do Marner for Provorov but I don't think much of Patrick so Auston is too special of player to replace but honestly this proposal had me hesitate for a second which is a decent offer.
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He's lead the league in ES goals per minute (hardest stat to lead the league in) since his first game in the NHL .
But he doesn't have a bunch of sissy second assists and PP points, cool story brah
Broad Street Buddies
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When Couturier got hurt and Dave Hakstol needed a 1C in playoff to face the best player in the world, he didn’t asked good old Claude Giroux to do it.
Instead, he trusted a 19 year old rookie.
That’s all you need to know.
Instead, he trusted a 19 year old rookie.
That’s all you need to know.
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Yeah, as absolutely if the equalizer in value between Matthews and Provorov is Nolan Patrick.
Flyers do this with bells on, Dubas is executed by firing squad in maple leaf Square if this is even proffered.
They're fine players but really, let's trade a first overall kid who is career 0.5 GPG to address a need and hope we can pick another 1st or 2nd overall kid to take his place. Keep dreaming.
Flyers do this with bells on, Dubas is executed by firing squad in maple leaf Square if this is even proffered.
They're fine players but really, let's trade a first overall kid who is career 0.5 GPG to address a need and hope we can pick another 1st or 2nd overall kid to take his place. Keep dreaming.
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Ok pal. We won’t try and tell you how good your player can be and you do us the same. Patrick’s floor is of a #2 C, his ceiling is a top center.
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Again, the Flyers don’t even entertain this idea. I know it’s been a while since then Leafs had legitimately good players but you’ve seemingly forgotten that others do too.
I honestly don’t even believe when all is said and done and careers are finished that Matthews would be THAT much better than Patrick. Certainly not with a big enough gap to be filled by Ivan freaking Provorov.
Man Bear Pig
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Interesting how you brought up Patrick's injury just a few posts earlier but ignore Matthews' injury, which he apparently played with in the playoffs. I mean, since we're making excuses and all.
I don't recall Matthews (or any other Leaf) facing the Caps in the playoffs.
He did have 1G & 1A in 7 games against the Bruins though. (Patrick had the same in 6 games against the Pens).
That's abundantly clear ITT. Every neutral fan is agreeing that this is horrible for the Flyers.
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