Friedman: Leafs "All in" for best forward they can get.

[TOGuy14]

Nick Foligno would be the best fit here all around

 

[TheGroceryStick]

It's a case of "Play the hand your dealt" I suppose - Leafs arent the only suitor for Hall, nor the preferable one due to cap restraints and money having to come back. If I'm TML thoygh, I sure as hell don't wanna play a bolstered BOS team after winning* my division by playing absolute plugs 7x each all season... Something to consider.

Alot of variables.
I'd venture to say Toronto isn't worried about how Boston (a team that will struggle in their own division, if they make it) adding a guy like Taylor Hall. I get the idea of trying to stir up some interest / up the return. But I really don't see a fight for a guy no one wanted a mere months ago on a long term deal...and then proved everyone right with his current play.

 

[TopChedder]

Reading some of the posts in here is ridiculous. The Devils-Iles trade is more along the lines of what we will see with trading for a premium piece. Nobody is trading away the future this year, especially with a flat cap right now. Hell that trade maybe the only 1st moved.

 

[TopChedder]

Nick Foligno would be the best fit here all around

I little older at 34 but he would be a fantastic pickup.

 

[patriotfan]

Toronto is so ALL IN that they might even take glendeling or leighton or somebody else with Hall and Ullmark. Even Vatanen is a possibility for the PP units. So the word on the offices is real high, real high.

The Maple Leafs are the most wanted club to be right now and the most trendy. Just like with Tavares etc, Lindros, Neauwendyk, Roberts, Gary, Brian Leetch, Phil Housleys etc, the Toronto Maple Leafs are the most powerful and richest club and THEY DO WHAT THEY WANT. They get what they want. Others might be jelious, but don't be alarmed. Others will only be the watchers. The followers, Maple leafs is the doers. They get and take what they want right now.

Real power is not something that's given to you. It's what you take.

i agree with you on most of what you said, but there is one catch the cap, its a big big problem, you more or less have to pay for cap room off of someone else if you want to make a move when your tight against the cap, no matter how much money you have remember this is a tight cap league, the days of free spending are long gone.

 

[patriotfan]

I little older at 34 but he would be a fantastic pickup.

i agree....

 

[patriotfan]

Toronto isn't going to be able to field a better roster than Tampa or Colorado. But they can sweep through the weak North and be well-rested for the other division winners. All it takes is a hot goalie so Toronto is smart to go all in. They will never have an easier path to the conference finals.

just remember nothing is a given here on the north any of the top four can win this division in the playoffs it going to be a battle and then how do they fair against the american teams in the semmis...

 

[Blitz]

Alot of variables.
I'd venture to say Toronto isn't worried about how Boston (a team that will struggle in their own division, if they make it) adding a guy like Taylor Hall. I get the idea of trying to stir up some interest / up the return. But I really don't see a fight for a guy no one wanted a mere months ago on a long term deal...and then proved everyone right with his current play.

Don't make stuff up to set up a narrative.

The flat cap was literally the ONLY reason he wasn't swimming in multi-year, large dollar offers and you know it. Fact is he wanted to play for Kreuger (Ooops), as he loved his system in EDM - oh, and Buffalo game him $8M for a shortened season w/ no strings/term attached allowing him to go where he wanted after the league returned to normal.

 

[Fogelhund]

Bozak have anything left in the tank as a #3?

Cap hit is too high. Laughton is better, if the Flyers would move him.

 

[patriotfan]

Gaudreau (50%), Gio (50%), Bennett (50%), Rittich

2022 1st, 2022 2nd, Kerfoot, Amirov, Liljegren, Andersen

not happening, seems like a fair trade value wise but just don't see that happening at all the cap doesn't match, and i don't see either team making that big a deal before the trade deadline...

 

[Mats13]

They quite possibly will. There's been Smoke around Hall/DeBrusk for a couple weeks now, plus way easier to figure the money constraints out as well since BOS isn't upside down on cap.

That’s fine but you’re not getting Sandin for him let alone Sandin+

 

[Fogelhund]

Gaudreau (50%), Gio (50%), Bennett (50%), Rittich

2022 1st, 2022 2nd, Kerfoot, Amirov, Liljegren, Andersen

That's an awful lot to pay, when you have two expiring contracts in Bennett and Rittich, and you are likely to lose one of Gaudreau or Gio in the expansion draft. Clearly nobody wants to pay Bennett his QO either. It's just too much to pay, for what will mostly be rentals for us.

 

[ToDavid]

Hall as a rental (even at 50% retained) is not worth any of our top prospects or a 1st round pick. If that's Buffalo's asking price, Kyle needs to look elsewhere.

I would happily pay a 2021 1st for Hall @ 50%. It's a bit of a weak draft and Dubas has been money in the later rounds recently.

 

[Randall]

Nick Foligno would be the best fit here all around

Foligno is the player we need!

 

[TheGroceryStick]

Don't make stuff up to set up a narrative.

The flat cap was literally the ONLY reason he wasn't swimming in multi-year, large dollar offers and you know it. Fact is he wanted to play for Kreuger (Ooops), as he loved his system in EDM - oh, and Buffalo game him $8M for a shortened season w/ no strings/term attached allowing him to go where he wanted after the league returned to normal.

Oh I'm the one making the narrative? haha. You literally dreamed up a scenario where Toronto should prevent Boston from improving (a team they are unlikely even to meet in the playoffs).

Teams aren't rushing to add Hall for anything short of retained, minimal asset deal.

 

[SHANNYPLAN]

Foligno and/or Laughton should be the priority for Dubas

 

[Bevans]

There isn't any indication or article stating that Timo Meier had Covid. Now Tomas Hertl lost time to Covid (he's also a big guy so maybe you confused those two).

Although I mentioned Timo yesterday, there is a big revelation today that Labanc may be available (article from Sharks beat writer below saying that he's available for the right price but is not being actively shopped). This comes as a surprise because Labanc has really improved his game (esp. his skating) and my opinion is that I don't want him traded. But he may be available. I still don't like Timo though.

You guys are welcome to come discuss it with us on the Sharks board.

Well everyone lost a ton of time to covid. Sorry, I should have been more specific. The long break in the off-season obviously hurt him. I'm not saying he lost time from having Covid, just to the circumstances of Covid.

I think Meier is much more important to the Sharks' future than Labanc, personally.

 

[Double Dion]

What about Matthew Tkachuk for the Leafs? I think he'd be the perfect fit for your roster. Gaudreau/Monahan aren't the right types for the Leafs, but Tkachuk would be perfect. I'd be looking for Nylander, 1st and Amirov back.

 

[Amadeus]

What about Matthew Tkachuk for the Leafs? I think he'd be the perfect fit for your roster. Gaudreau/Monahan aren't the right types for the Leafs, but Tkachuk would be perfect. I'd be looking for Nylander, 1st and Amirov back.

I like Tkatchuk but liken him to a slightly more glorified Zach Hyman.

The difference between him and Nylander is not Amirov and a 1st, especially when Nylander is the superior player in actually driving the play versus Tkatchuk is more of a beneficiary. That's just my opinion, to be honest.

 

[Double Dion]

I like Tkatchuk but liken him to a slightly more glorified Zach Hyman.

The difference between him and Nylander is not Amirov and a 1st, especially when Nylander is the superior player in actually driving the play versus Tkatchuk is more of a beneficiary. That's just my opinion, to be honest.

This is why you should never post with certain Leaf fans. I like Hyman, but he's never scored 30 goals, never led the league in penalties drawn and is not even remotely in the same class of player. Comparing Hyman to Tkachuk is like comparing Monahan to Matthews because they both have a nice wrist shot.

 

[Morbo]

What about Matthew Tkachuk for the Leafs? I think he'd be the perfect fit for your roster. Gaudreau/Monahan aren't the right types for the Leafs, but Tkachuk would be perfect. I'd be looking for Nylander, 1st and Amirov back.

you can prefer Tkachuk over Nylander if you want....but the difference is not a top prospect and a 1st rounder.

 

[Double Dion]

you can prefer Tkachuk over Nylander if you want....but the difference is not a top prospect and a 1st rounder.

It is for me. Nylander is a perimeter player. A poor man's Gaudreau. He's a good offensive player, but Tkachuk is unique. A 2-way power forward and pest who can score 30 goals. Name me another player in the league like that.

 

[Faltorvo]

Toronto's goal to win the division?
I thought Toronto wanted to win the Stanley Cup.

Then there will be very weak clubs: TBL, AVS, VGS ...
Get stronger? Why is this needed? Stanley Cup !!!

Palmieri is now unavailable.
Available (@ 50% Ret): Bernier, Foligno, Hall, Dzingel, Hoffman, Schwartz, Ryan, Glendening, Savard, Stecher, Vatanen, Kulikov, Del Zotto...

Choose - who is needed?

i don't give a sht about those other 3 clubs,,they better be very worried facing us this year

 

[Amadeus]

This is why you should never post with certain Leaf fans. I like Hyman, but he's never scored 30 goals, never led the league in penalties drawn and is not even remotely in the same class of player. Comparing Hyman to Tkachuk is like comparing Monahan to Matthews because they both have a nice wrist shot.

Rich man's Zach Hyman is a top notch player. I wasn't trying to diss Tkathuck at all. I see the value he brings. Haven't seen it this year but I think he's a strong core piece.

He's not worth Nylander + Amirov + 1st though.

 

[Amadeus]

It is for me. Nylander is a perimeter player. A poor man's Gaudreau. He's a good offensive player, but Tkachuk is unique. A 2-way power forward and pest who can score 30 goals. Name me another player in the league like that.

Brady Tkatchuk.