Friedman: Leafs "All in" for best forward they can get.

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  1. Springfield Isotopes Registered User

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    1st and Tim Liljegren for Miles Wood.. Marner Mathews Wood. Sandpapper physical fast and pesty woood
     
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    who scores almost all his goals from the slot ...go figure. yea, Nylander can skate circles around Tk and often does, and maybe too often.
    I'd also say because of his play style Tkachuk will be less durable, as he's already missed a fair bit of time to injury.
    ...also remember, if he ever becomes a Leaf, all his cheap shots will be insta-suspensions

    Calgary wouldnt entertain trading him anyways
     
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    Gaudreau has 27 points and Nylander has 30 points... maybe Gaudreau is a poor mans Nylander? Nylander outscored him last year too. Johnny's best days are behind him.
     
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    check out his goalscoring blob...sure doesn't look like it to me.

    it sounds to me like you should keep Tkachuk. if he's so unique and great, why would you want an inferior perimeter player like Nylander as the return anyway?
     
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    Looking like Josh Anderson may be another of of those guy.

    The Hyman vs MT was a bad comparison but Hyman definitely puts up 30 goals last year if not for the shortened season (34 goal pace)
     
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    our 1st and a top prospect for a guy who averages under 30 pts a year... not good asset management
    i wouldnt give up either piece for him. better players have gone through waivers
     
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    Wood doesn't return the equivalent of 2 late 1st come on...
     
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    Toronto being all in sounds like a way to get Toronto to watch their trade deadline day coverage.
     
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    “You got to know when to hold’em. Know when to fold’em.”
     
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    The valuation of Leaf players is a bit ridiculous in this thread. Hyman a 30 goal scorer and Nylander isn't a perimeter player. Hyman is a product of the players he plays with. He's a gritty 10-15 goal bottom 6 player. Chiasson scored 25 goals playing with McDavid. Hyman had 10 goals in the season he didn't play with a top 10 player. Nylander benefits from playing with elite players too. Put Gaudreau with Tavares or Matthews and he's well over a PPG every season.
     
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    Yeah he definitely makes some sense
     
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    has baggage... not a desired commodity
     
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    Friedman saying the leafs are in on the best forward is hyperbolic on his part, probably so people tune in.

    Leafs cant get anyone with term because it messes up their expansion draft.

    As for the best rentals I think its fair to say Ovechkin and Getzlaf wont be leafs.

    Hall wont cost a first because he's having a weaker year.

    Cup winning teams tend to just work around the edges. My choice for rentals are Laughton, Oleksiak and Ullmark. These guys are doable and wont break the bank.
     
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    That’s what I’m fearing, a lot of BS to end up standing pat, or at least adding nothing of significance.
     
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    Would like to see Max Domi with the Leafs for the sake of their fans. But it'd be satisfying for Leaf Fans to know they got both players that the Habs traded away.

    But this screams Taylor Hall to me.
     
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    All of the Leafs players "benefit from playing with elite players", but no one ever actually says who these elite players are. Matthews loses polls to Eichel because he's not that great but gets to play with elite players. Marner loses polls because he's a soft, one dimensional winger who plays with elite players.

    You can't quite get to who these elite guys are.
     
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    Does a Bracco + for Kerfoot offer overload and explode all of the trade machinery?
     
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    Victor Olofsson is good on the power play, and the Leafs - at least, at present - are not. What would the price be for him?
     
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    Good lord.
     
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    1. There are maybe 3 centers in the same sphere as Matthews. Crosby, McDavid and Mackinnon. The Leafs have a top 4 forward. Marner could be called a top 20 forward without any controversy. Tavares is a top 15 center without controversy. Nylander is a good offensive player. I'd call him a 1st line player, but not an elite player. Hyman and Mikheyev are good third liners.

    2. Where Leaf fans get in trouble is when they start saying stupid things. Things like Hyman is basically Tkachuk. That's when other people start to respond in equally ridiculous fashion. He was a 10 goal player when he started playing with two top 20 players. It's the Chiasson or Cheechoo effect if you'd like to go further back.
     
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    Bracco is under contract with Carolina, so if we could set a precedent of trading other team's players. Absolutely, it would break the machinery.
     
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    I'd do that and fully retain on Wood (~1.4 million after retention) to get it done. Doubt Dubas would though.
     
  23. Ted Hoffman Waiting for the rest of you to catch up.

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    Off the trade block. For now.
    That's the question every team is going to have to ask themselves: are we good enough as it is to make a run to the Cup, we don't care who we get? Or, do we think we need to improve to solidify our chances / avoid a certain matchup right off the bat? Doesn't matter if this is a 56-game season in divisional play and you don't see anyone else until the semis. Winning a Cup this year is still winning the Stanley Cup. If you think you've got a shot at it, you have to take it - and if that means you make a deal to improve your shot at it, you do it.
     
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    It's my opinion.

    I've seen Tkachuk lots this year and he hasn't looked very good.

    I'd still trade Nylander and a 1st for him but I'm not including Amirov. The gap between Nylander and Tkachuk is not Amirov and a 1st.
     
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    Agreed. Good points here.
     
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