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you do if you are trying to bluff someone.I would say having an out clause to Finland would create doubt.
you do if you are trying to bluff someone.I would say having an out clause to Finland would create doubt.
you do if you are trying to bluff someone.
I think Roslo has looked pretty great. He has been the best player on that line in their end, and other than one bad play defensively last game I think he has been pretty good defensively as well.So, a few things.
First, my expectation is that if KV stays in Finland, it will be with the Jets blessings. I don't see them issuing the ultimatums and veiled threats you envision.
Two, I don't see Appleton being a serious threat to climb above KV on the depth chart. I mean, he's not even a LW never mind whether he really has NHL potential.
Three, I wouldn't be so quick to say Roslo won't be going back to the Moose. Granted he's had limited ice time, but I don't think he's yet demonstrated that he should be here to stay.
I wonder if he is just down for the weekend games for playing time and then gets called up on Monday.
Why would they do that? They are now at the 22 man roster they said they might go with this year. Dano was tossed away to get here.
you do if you are trying to bluff someone.
I think that's very plausible. Give Vesa a taste of the NHL and AHL so he can make an informed decision about his future. Jets can be pretty frank with him and say look at Connor. He came here, was healthy scratched a bunch until game 30 and then was sent down. He spent time in the A and when his shot came he was ready and hasn't looked back. Look at Rosie. Played in the AHL and then got some playoff games in and now has secured a spot and won't look back. Also look at Dano. Came to camp out of shape when he had his chance to grab a spot and missed his opportunity here as others passed him on the depth chart. Look at Lemeiux, he's getting his shot now to prove what he can do but he spent a few seasons in the AHL first. Petan needs to be ready when his chance comes.
Jets could say "Vesa, you can do what you want but if Appleton puts in another strong season, maybe he's next in line. You're going to have to spend some time in the AHL at some point to prove that you're ready. You can do that now or next year, or the year after that. It's up to you, but whenever you decide to come over, handing you a spot in our NHL lineup isn't likely in the cards. We gave you a solid look this year but you haven't slammed the door on your competition. We gave you an NHL cheque for a bit and took you to play in Finland. If you want to stay in Finland fine, but if you get on that plane, we expect you to stay with the Moose the entire season. We'll call you up for playoffs if we make it and you might have an inside track for a roster spot next year. That's entirely up to you and how you play."
Saves money on the cap. Remember the more you save now the more you have at the deadline.
Will be good for him to get some offence going in the A. He isn't a horrible player but he just can't keep up offensively right now. He'll be able to play his game a little better with more minutes with the Moose. Get some PP and maybe some PK time too.
Is that something to be concerned about? We have enough powerplay specialists. Would rather most of his points came esGarret noted that much of Ves's offence comes from PP. Put him on the no. 1 Moose PP, let him hone what he's best at. And work on the other stuff when he's not on the PP. Morrissey to Ehlers to Ves might be a good no. 2 up the road.
No. Recalling him after the weekend does exactly the opposite of saving money on the cap. I'm not questioning why they send him down. I'm questioning why they would recall him to sit in the press box again.
They probably leave him down there until the Finland trip.
Garret noted that much of Ves's offence comes from PP. Put him on the no. 1 Moose PP, let him hone what he's best at. And work on the other stuff when he's not on the PP. Morrissey to Ehlers to Ves might be a good no. 2 up the road.
Is that something to be concerned about? We have enough powerplay specialists. Would rather most of his points came es
They probably leave him down there until the Finland trip.
TBH, having him on the Finland trip should be the last thing they're concerned about.
That's my guess. After that trip? Depends on how much he can improve from now until then. He could play as many as 5 Moose games, plus the 2 NHL games in Finland. Will that be enough to get him over the hump? Probably not, IMO. But he is not all that far short of readiness, so I think it is possible. There was some visible progress in his 5 games with the Jets.
I hope they don't give in to any temptation to rush him though. He has a lot of potential if he is handled properly.
Yea I imagine he gets called up for the Finland games, gets sent down, then depending on where we are at the end of the season he may get a few more games to bump his salary up. Hard to say what goes on behind closed doors but the Jets may have a handshake agreement that if he sticks around he gets the Finland games and a set amount of games to ensure he gets a certain amount of salary. Probably the 9 total at minimum. It's not unheard of for this to happen.
He has 5 games now. Assuming he dresses for both Finland games he will be at 7. That leaves room for just 2 more later. By late season/PO time they will have to make a decision on whether he adds enough value to be worth burning a year or not. I doubt they will do that unless injuries force it. But I could see that kind of agreement for the 9 games. Actually, if it is just about giving him a certain amount of $$$, he doesn't even need to play. The pay goes by days on the roster, not games played.
True but I think there are some weird things with the escrow, I remember reading about a certain amount of days actually costs players more because of the way the pay periods work. Teams don't hire cap managers for nothing. Stuff gets really complicated. I'd imagine the Jets won't call him up until the last two games of the season if he gets the Finland games.
Yea I imagine he gets called up for the Finland games, gets sent down, then depending on where we are at the end of the season he may get a few more games to bump his salary up. Hard to say what goes on behind closed doors but the Jets may have a handshake agreement that if he sticks around he gets the Finland games and a set amount of games to ensure he gets a certain amount of salary. Probably the 9 total at minimum. It's not unheard of for this to happen.