Confirmed with Link: Kevin Hayes 5: signs 7 years, $50M

[GapToothedWonder]

To me the biggest difference is iq. His iq is way lower than coots

To be fair that's true for almost everybody haha.

 

[Curufinwe]

 

[Striiker]

Our beats are dumb

 

[David St Hubbins]

Our beats are dumb

 

[Striiker]

It makes me feel better to say it once in a while.

 

[TheKingPin]

Id say the key to Hayes is keeping possession and driving to the net. He’s like a slower Ritchie picking off passes at the points. Keep that up.

 

[deadhead]

I think Hayes needs to see his linemates better and be more decisive and get away from the puck hogging, head down moves.
But some of that may simply be unfamiliarity with his teammates (and a constantly shifting cast of linemates).

Second half should be interesting, by the time they get off this road trip, with Laughton back, the team should be close to set for the stretch run, and players have had time to get acclimated to AV's schemes. So it's time to step up or get out.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

I think Hayes is looking great. It takes time to adjust to a new team & teammates, but he’s hitting his stride. He’s a huge presence for this team. Without him they’d be in trouble in this very tough East.

 

[Curufinwe]

Slower, but much bigger.

 

[Curufinwe]

I’m tempted to start a MB thread titled:

“Does Kevin Hayes finally crack 50 points this season?”

 

[FLYguy3911]

Per 60 ranks on the team over the past two seasons (min 1,000 minutes):

CF% rel: 8th
xGF% rel: 5th
GF% rel: 8th

Goals: 7th
Primary Assists: 9th
Total Points: 8th

Negative penalty differential.

Not even a top 6 forward on his team. What a contract.

"Worth every penny to this team".

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Per 60 ranks on the team over the past two seasons (min 1,000 minutes):

CF% rel: 8th
xGF% rel: 5th
GF% rel: 8th

Goals: 7th
Primary Assists: 9th
Total Points: 8th

Negative penalty differential.

Not even a top 6 forward on his team. What a contract.

"Worth every penny to this team".

Where would we be without him?

Also - atoadaso.

 

[deadhead]

Per 60 ranks on the team over the past two seasons (min 1,000 minutes):

CF% rel: 8th
xGF% rel: 5th
GF% rel: 8th

Goals: 7th
Primary Assists: 9th
Total Points: 8th

Negative penalty differential.

Not even a top 6 forward on his team. What a contract.

"Worth every penny to this team".

Well, he matches up pretty well with Jake, given he's a center, and he PKs.
Jake xGF% 49.87, xGFrel -0.84, HDCF% 50.07%, 2.37 pp/60 (ES), on-ice Sh% 10.45%
Hayes xGF% 50.28, xGFrel +0.06, HDCF% 53.02%, 1.82 pp/60 (ES) on-ice Sh% 7.65%

The guys ahead of both of them, Couts, G, JVR, TK, and Farabee is right behind.
Voracek scores at a higher rate, partially b/c he's a better playmaker, but also because he has had a lot of linemate "puck luck," the opposite for Hayes, whose on-ice Sh% should regress to the mean.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Well, he matches up pretty well with Jake, given he's a center, and he PKs.
Jake xGF% 49.87, xGFrel -0.84, HDCF% 50.07%, 2.37 pp/60 (ES), on-ice Sh% 10.45%
Hayes xGF% 50.28, xGFrel +0.06, HDCF% 53.02%, 1.82 pp/60 (ES) on-ice Sh% 7.65%

The guys ahead of both of them, Couts, G, JVR, TK, and Farabee is right behind.
Voracek scores at a higher rate, partially b/c he's a better playmaker, but also because he has had a lot of linemate "puck luck," the opposite for Hayes, whose on-ice Sh% should regress to the mean.

For all the talk about roles, I can't help but notice the lack of key information included in a Voracek-Hayes comp.

Voracek just finished Year 5 of a UFA deal and his Age 31 season. Hayes finished Year 2 at 29. I can't even imagine what Hayes looks like in the last 2-3 years of that contract.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Per 60 ranks on the team over the past two seasons (min 1,000 minutes):

CF% rel: 8th
xGF% rel: 5th
GF% rel: 8th

Goals: 7th
Primary Assists: 9th
Total Points: 8th

Negative penalty differential.

Not even a top 6 forward on his team. What a contract.

"Worth every penny to this team".

I tried so hard to be optimistic. This has not panned out thus far.

 

[Oskar Man]

I said it then, Jeff Carter was a better safer option.

 

[deadhead]

For all the talk about roles, I can't help but notice the lack of key information included in a Voracek-Hayes comp.

Voracek just finished Year 5 of a UFA deal and his Age 31 season. Hayes finished Year 2 at 29. I can't even imagine what Hayes looks like in the last 2-3 years of that contract.

Probably just fine as a winger, I don't see him staying at center by year 5 of his deal.
As a winger, with less skating and defensive responsibilities he could be just fine for a couple more years. He has a good shot.
I always thought his experience on the wing made this deal less risk b/c you don't have to guess whether he can successfully transition.

 

[Magua]

7 year contracts to fill immediate needs to make the playoffs, not contend, in years 1 and 2 usually pan out.

 

[Beef Invictus]

So, we thinking a Lecavalier-like end of this contract? Only worse because his ceiling wasn't as high?

 

[deadhead]

JVR is the best value of the three, both Hayes and Voracek underperformed their contracts this season.
However, regression to the mean suggests Hayes will bounce back next yearn, that low On-ice sh% is unlikely to continue.

 

[Striiker]

@Captain Dave Poulin remember the victory laps last year? Boy oh boy did Fletcher, AV, and Hayes make us look foolish.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

@Captain Dave Poulin remember the victory laps last year? Boy oh boy did Fletcher, AV, and Hayes make us look foolish.

I member, and I also member the daily fear I lived with that we might not make the playoffs, and I member the sweet relief of having made them, even though we were bounced like chumps. Imagine where we would be without those playoffs, which were only possible because of Hayes and Niskey and Fletch and Alain.

 

[MacDonald4MVP]

So, we thinking a Lecavalier-like end of this contract? Only worse because his ceiling wasn't as high?

Lecavalier had 100 million in a bank and he chose legacy over $$. That's a once in a lifetime thing. Such a shame that with all that capspace we just sunk it into freaking Filppula capdump.

 

[Strawberry Fields]

Best Flyers FA signing of all time.

 

[Schwarbomb]

So, we thinking a Lecavalier-like end of this contract? Only worse because his ceiling wasn't as high?

No way, Vinny was as useless as a cadaver out there.