Player Discussion Karl Alzner: He Left and They Won

[tazsub3]

Habs can't absorb 4.6 million caphit for 4 more years. With no benefit. There is no work stoppage coming

possibly, but there is also no need to buy him this year or next as we have and will have ample room. in year 3 the buyout period will be cut in half. so again there is no chance he gets bought out now.

 

[BLONG7]

This is such a fireable offense by MB...........another nail in the coffin, hopefully.

The game seems to have passed Karl by...

 

[Scintillating10]

possibly, but there is also no need to buy him this year or next as we have and will have ample room. in year 3 the buyout period will be cut in half. so again there is no chance he gets bought out now.

Can add a million to caproom if sent him down plus add a player to roster

 

[WG]

We offered this scrub 5 years but some were affraid to offer Alexander Radulov the same term?

It absolutely makes me sick to think that there’s only a difference of 1,6 M between Alzner and Radulov’s contract.

Just everybody's friendly reminder that noted talent evaluator Bergevin just this month tripled down on his defense of signing Alzner and letting Radu walk, by foreshadowing that Dallas might end up regretting having Radu at 6.25M in three years time.

 

[WG]

Can add a million to caproom if sent him down plus add a player to roster

You'd still have to add a guy to the roster, so if the team sent Alzner down and brought, say, Lernout up, you'd get 1.025M in cap relief to send Alzner down but you'd add $650K to put Lernout on the roster.

 

[Scintillating10]

You'd still have to add a guy to the roster, so if the team sent Alzner down and brought, say, Lernout up, you'd get 1.025M in cap relief to send Alzner down but you'd add $650K to put Lernout on the roster.

Doesn't have to be another dud like Lernout. Could be a prospect who can actually add somethingtothe team

 

[LeHab]

"If you want loyalty, buy a dog."

 

[CapSpace]

"If you want loyalty, buy a dog."

Wh... why. Why.

 

[cactusjack]

hopefully he's going to be on waivers next week, or at least in the stands for good.

 

[tazsub3]

anyone knows record with him in lineup and without

 

[voyageur]

hopefully he's going to be on waivers next week, or at least in the stands for good.

I'm really hoping now.

Healthy d:

Mete-Weber
Benn-Petry
Reilly-Juulsen
Schlemko, Ouellet as reserves.

I sure hope Juulsen doesn't get sent down to keep Alzner on the team.

 

[Frank Drebin]

This thread title.... Beautiful
@Adam Michaels

 

[sandviper]

anyone knows record with him in lineup and without

Montreal record as of November 10, 2018-2019 season.

8-5-3

With Alzner: 2-1-2
Without: 6-4-1

Alzner’s first game this season was on October 17. We were 3-1-1 at that point.

We won the game he started, so we were 4-1-1. He played the next game, and lost in OT so 4-1-2. He sat, so we split the next two: 5-2-2.

He returned and we won, 6-2-2. We lost in the next game, where he dressed, so 6-3-2.

We split the next 4, so 8-5-2. He returned and we lost in OT, 8-5-3.

So, we had a great start but since then, with or without him, we’re playing roughly 500 hockey. If you remove the 3-1-1 start, like I said, we are 2-1-2 with Alzner since that start. Without Alzner since that hot start, we are 3 and 3. I suppose if you want to be nitpicking, we can say we won more than we lost with Alzner but loser points are loser points so I view his starts as 500 hockey also.

Poetic then as I write this in that the score in the Vegas game is now 3-3.

 

[cactusjack]

I'm really hoping now.

Healthy d:

Mete-Weber
Benn-Petry
Reilly-Juulsen
Schlemko, Ouellet as reserves.

I sure hope Juulsen doesn't get sent down to keep Alzner on the team.

i'd go with:
Reilly-Weber
Mete Petry
Benn Julsen
Shlekmko Ouellet, no problem with a rotation of Benn-Schlemko-Ouellet. But Benn should be playing 15 min max. It's better for the team and for his level of play too.

 

[tazsub3]

Montreal record as of November 10, 2018-2019 season.

8-5-3

With Alzner: 2-1-2
Without: 6-4-1

Alzner’s first game this season was on October 17. We were 3-1-1 at that point.

We won the game he started, so we were 4-1-1. He played the next game, and lost in OT so 4-1-2. He sat, so we split the next two: 5-2-2.

He returned and we won, 6-2-2. We lost in the next game, where he dressed, so 6-3-2.

We split the next 4, so 8-5-2. He returned and we lost in OT, 8-5-3.

So, we had a great start but since then, with or without him, we’re playing roughly 500 hockey. If you remove the 3-1-1 start, like I said, we are 2-1-2 with Alzner since that start. Without Alzner since that hot start, we are 3 and 3. I suppose if you want to be nitpicking, we can say we won more than we lost with Alzner but loser points are loser points so I view his starts as 500 hockey also.

Poetic then as I write this in that the score in the Vegas game is now 3-3.

much apreciated

 

[Zusammenhalt]

So another win with Alzner. Just saying.

Better asset management is to send those players down to Laval that can still pass through waivers while they can. Oullett, Mete and Juulson can go back and forth without any loss. That would be my GM move.

 

[cactusjack]

So another win with Alzner. Just saying.

Better asset management is to send those players down to Laval that can still pass through waivers while they can. Oullett, Mete and Juulson can go back and forth without any loss. That would be my GM move.

So you think there's a chance a team picks him up if he goes on waivers? And that could be a bad thing? I'd play the youngsters and on the 1% chance that we lose him on waivers, that would be good for the cap space in 3-4 years.

 

[Vachon23]

Who's better ( or the worst) Andrew MacDonald or Karl Alzner ?

 

[WhiskeySeven*]

Who's better ( or the worst) Andrew MacDonald or Karl Alzner ?

I think Andy Mac can actually play NHL hockey. Or he could have in the early days of his crazy deal.

Alzner is not an NHL dman.

 

[The Great Weal]

Put him on waiver please

 

[nhlfan9191]

Montreal record as of November 10, 2018-2019 season.

8-5-3

With Alzner: 2-1-2
Without: 6-4-1

Alzner’s first game this season was on October 17. We were 3-1-1 at that point.

We won the game he started, so we were 4-1-1. He played the next game, and lost in OT so 4-1-2. He sat, so we split the next two: 5-2-2.

He returned and we won, 6-2-2. We lost in the next game, where he dressed, so 6-3-2.

We split the next 4, so 8-5-2. He returned and we lost in OT, 8-5-3.

So, we had a great start but since then, with or without him, we’re playing roughly 500 hockey. If you remove the 3-1-1 start, like I said, we are 2-1-2 with Alzner since that start. Without Alzner since that hot start, we are 3 and 3. I suppose if you want to be nitpicking, we can say we won more than we lost with Alzner but loser points are loser points so I view his starts as 500 hockey also.

Poetic then as I write this in that the score in the Vegas game is now 3-3.

Where’s your rotation on the GDT’s?

 

[Vachon23]

I think Andy Mac can actually play NHL hockey. Or he could have in the early days of his crazy deal.

Alzner is not an NHL dman.

So you would do Macdonald vs Alzner ?

 

[LaP]

So another win with Alzner. Just saying.

Better asset management is to send those players down to Laval that can still pass through waivers while they can. Oullett, Mete and Juulson can go back and forth without any loss. That would be my GM move.

So another win despite Alzner would be more correct. He sucked big time tonight.

Unless you want to tank the good GM move is to waive Alzner and send him down. He's not a NHL player anymore and if you think his mistake wont hurt this team later you're just fooling yourself.

 

[LaP]

So you think there's a chance a team picks him up if he goes on waivers? And that could be a bad thing? I'd play the youngsters and on the 1% chance that we lose him on waivers, that would be good for the cap space in 3-4 years.

There's absolutely no chance anyone claim him. None whatsoever unless a GM and his pro scout team did not watch much of our games in the last year.

 

[sandviper]

Where’s your rotation on the GDT’s?

Real life has been uber busy for me. Thankfully many others picked up the slack. Hoping to get more free time end of the month.