Player Discussion Kailer Yamamoto

[voxel]

Defensively he's surprisingly good (excellent stickwork and solid on the boards) and plays on the Condors PK and offensively he can snipe and thread passes and also his skating is well above average. The negative? He's short and thus doesn't have a high top-end speed and falls down when leaned against. He will be a better Gagner IMO but the same flaws are there.

We've had Cogliano, Gagner, Desharnais... Yams is different from all those. I'd say he's a forward version of Lubo. The problem is... where does he fit in our lineup?

 

[Hopelesslucicfan]

Defensively he's surprisingly good (excellent stickwork and solid on the boards) and plays on the Condors PK and offensively he can snipe and thread passes and also his skating is well above average. The negative? He's short and thus doesn't have a high top-end speed and falls down when leaned against. He will be a better Gagner IMO but the same flaws are there.

We've had Cogliano, Gagner, Desharnais... Yams is different from all those. I'd say he's a forward version of Lubo. The problem is... where does he fit in our lineup?

Assuming his development continues and he can put up between 40 and 50 points at some point in the NHL, he could be a second line winger with Nuge capable of killing penalties. Nothing wrong with that. Not like Nygard or Neal are long term solutions, so if he proves he's ready, spots will open up.

 

[lakai17]

Yamamoto is a charismatic person and player, but it is really on the thin line of being a AHL superstar/ does not fit in the NHL game though or being a somewhat productive player in NHL.

Im glad Im not a scout, but Yamamoto is one of those players that could really miss of being what he showed promise of.

I'm glad you're not a scout as well. His skills do fit the nhl, he can skate, he does possess a decent hockey i.q.

 

[Jumptheshark]

I'm glad you're not a scout as well. His skills do fit the nhl, he can skate, he does possess a decent hockey i.q.

he has not played enough games in the NHL to make that statement

 

[Oilhawks]

Call him up

 

[McFlyingV]

he has not played enough games in the NHL to make that statement

In his time up he always seemed to be in good spots to get scoring chances, but wasn't able to bury a lot of them. I'd say that suggests his hockey IQ is there, but his scoring finish wasn't.

 

[Aerchon]

I'm glad you're not a scout as well. His skills do fit the nhl, he can skate, he does possess a decent hockey i.q.

he has not played enough games in the NHL to make that statement

Yamamoto is too slow/unagile for the nhl due to his size, which obviously is also not up to nhl standards.

As other mentioned, also a lack of nhl finish.

He needs to improve in every imaginable way to become an effective nhler.

Hope he has a great season in the AHL and pushes himself to the next level.

 

[lakai17]

Yamamoto is too slow/unagile for the nhl due to his size, which obviously is also not up to nhl standards.

As other mentioned, also a lack of nhl finish.

He needs to improve in every imaginable way to become an effective nhler.

Hope he has a great season in the AHL and pushes himself to the next level.

He will be gettimg called up this season for another stint or two.

He pushed himself hard in the off season back to health and to elevate his game overall. He is getting results.

 

[Jumptheshark]

He has only played 26 nhl games over 2 seasons with time on ice average of just over 13 minutes

Extremely small size to make a clear decision.

We hope he is good but we are nowhere near at the point where we can say he has nhl level hockey IQ

 

[Tobias Kahun]

He has only played 26 nhl games overvrw9 season with time on ice average of just over 13 minutes

Extremely small size to make a clear decision.

We hope he is good but we are nowhere near at the point where we can say he has nhl level hockey IQ

This is a ridiculous thought process.

do you go through every thread and when you see someone mention NHL quality you say, nope, hasn’t played in the NHL.

Ryan McLeod has NHL quality skating, do you second guess that aswell?

Yamamoto was constantly in the right spots and just unable to finish.

 

[Jumptheshark]

This is a ridiculous thought process.

do you go through every thread and when you see someone mention NHL quality you say, nope, hasn’t played in the NHL.

Ryan McLeod has NHL quality skating, do you second guess that aswell?

Yamamoto was constantly in the right spots and just unable to finish.

At this point in time you are just pissing into the wind

Able to finish is a key part of nhl level hockey IQ

How many games has McLeod played in the nhl? Right now he is playing at a lower level and is faster then most. Does that make him have nhl speed? Nope..won't find that out till you know he actual plays games that mean something


Nhl speed is not a straight line race

 

[CycloneSweep]

Just cause he has played a couple good AHL games does not make him NHL ready

 

[Tobias Kahun]

At this point in time you are just pissing into the wind

Able to finish is a key part of nhl level hockey IQ

How many games has McLeod played in the nhl? Right now he is playing at a lower level and is faster then most. Does that make him have nhl speed? Nope..won't find that out till you know he actual plays games that mean something


Nhl speed is not a straight line race

hockey IQ has nothing to do with finishing ability.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Just cause he has played a couple good AHL games does not make him NHL ready

Pretty much this. The jump from the Ahl to the Nhl is bigger than some believe. He also needs more time to get used to how much more physical pro is from JR. We need to be patient.

 

[Jumptheshark]

hockey IQ has nothing to do with finishing ability.

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[Tobias Kahun]

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They are two different things, should be a pretty simple concept to understand

 

[Jumptheshark]

They are two different things, should be a pretty simple concept to understand

Hockey IQ is a key part of finishing

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

If you’re going to call him up and put him in that black hole of a bottom six don’t even bother.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Hockey IQ is a key part of finishing

Being smart to be in the right spot has nothing to do with having the actual skills to finish.

 

[Mr Tadakichi]

If you’re going to call him up and put him in that black hole of a bottom six don’t even bother.

Yeah, unless drai is centering the second line, would be a waste to put him with sheahan/haas.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Being smart to be in the right spot has nothing to do with having the actual skills to finish.

We are talking hockey IQ

Where to shoot
When to shoot
How to shoot

Are key parts of the finishing part of hockey IQ.

Guys who can not finish often get described as having all the tools but not the tool box.

Finishing is about picking your spots and that relies alot on how high is your hockey IQ is

 

[Tobias Kahun]

We are talking hockey IQ

Where to shoot
When to shoot
How to shoot

Are key parts of the finishing part of hockey IQ.

Guys who can not finish often get described as having all the tools but not the tool box.

Finishing is about picking your spots and that relies alot on how high is your hockey IQ is

Wrong.

 

[Soundwave]

Knock, knock, Kailer.

 

[Mr Tadakichi]

Wrong.

no u

 

[Jumptheshark]

Wrong.

You've lost me.

Most people would consider figuring out how to finish a play is directly related to hockey IQ,