No GM knew there would be a pandemic, but no GM has spent money like the one you are trying so hard to defend. You don't see other GM's trading the #13OA pick for cap relief this year do you?
Nylander 7M check
It's one thing to say how the Tavares signing effected the Leafs salary cap.
Campbell's $1.65 million is a fair contract for a #2 Goalie which everyone said the Leafs needed and that contract he signed was when he was still a member of the Kings.
The Tavares signing set the precedent. 11M, 2nd to only McDavid at the time of signing. A player that would be hard pressed to on a the top 10 players in the NHL list. Infact he would be near 15 for Centers alone. It was a vast overpayment, and it emboldened Nylander to hold out to December 1 where he still got his 7M and prorated at 10.3 for a reward for missing that many games. Players take notice when you can sniff a weak negotiator. Dubas has truly built a house of cards here.
It wasn't a trade for cap relief but when the Islanders traded Travis Hamonic to Calgary they got their 2018 1st round pick without any conditions and the Flames missed the playoffs in 2018, so they ended up trading away the 12th overall pick.
Dubas didn't trade the #13OA pick for cap relief? That one is new. You mean he just decided to trade Marleau to Carolina as a favour and decided to throw in a first rd pick to be a nice guy?
I said the other examples I used were trades of 1st picks 1 year in advance but they were not for cap relief like what Dubas did with Marleau's contract. However in those examples both the Flames and Blues missed the playoffs in 2018 giving up the 12th and 14th picks in the 2018 draft.
No one is changing the topic by discussing other trades in non pandemic years other than you. And to that original point No other GM's knew a pandemic was brewing, and no other GM traded a first rd pick this year for cap space because they maxed out the cap other than Dubas.
No, no GM traded the 13 th overall pick. A lot of GMs traded conditional picks though and the one Dubas traded ended up as the 13 overall pick.
Dubas wasn't the first GM who has traded a 1st round pick to get rid of a contract for cap relief.
St. Louis and did that for the 2018 draft trading their 2018 1st round pick 1 year in advance for Brayden Schenn and making it top 10 protected, which ended up being the 14th pick that Philadelphia got since the Blues missed the playoffs that season.
It happens all the time and some people act like Dubas is the first GM who has done that.
The guy who quoted you on this page sure as heck did. It is always the same people who constantly whine about Dubas and the Leafs.
Didn't you cite earlier a global pandemic as the excuse why Dubas traded a first rd pick for cap relief?
None of those other trades were in a global pandemic. You just keep changing your arguments post to post.
Again, here is your reply. You used the Global Pandemic as an excuse for Dubas trading a first rd pick due for cap relief. Then you post a lot of non related trades that are not a pandemic. Do you know how disingenuous this looks when you say "How was Kyle Dubas supposed to know that on July 1, 2018 when he signed Tavares that there would be a $81 million cap because of a global pandemic in 2020 no one saw happening."?
You were the one who used the $81 million flat salary cap as to why Dubas screwed up and they are only having that because of a global pandemic. If everything was normal the cap was supposed to be around $85 - 87 million.
Actually I was responding to your post above, and I asked you how many other GM's traded a first rd pick for cap relief this year that turned out to be the 13OA pick. You cited a pandemic as the excuse, and then rattled off examples not in a pandemic. This was a disingenuous argument since those were not in pandemics as you yourself cited.
I also said those other trades of 1st round picks 1 year in advance of the next draft was no different, because we saw Calgary and St. Louis end up trading the 12th and 14th picks of the 2018 draft since they missed the playoffs that year.
Besides the ramifications of the Tavares signing it's also true at that time no one thought the NHL would have a $81 million flat salary cap due to a global pandemic 2 years later, so tell me what was wrong about that statement?
