Proposal: Kadri to Avs for 1st+?

[BackhandToedrag]

As a leafs fan, i dont think youre wrong.

Thank you, btw I'm a Kadri fan and would love to see him in an AVS uniform but it won't be for Barrie and Jost

 

[RealisticLeaf55]

When did Kadri become the new Bozak?

 

[Canada4Gold]

Please tell me what part I'm wrong about

If I had to guess it would be the Barrie, Kadri part. Not as players, but given Kadri is signed 3 more years at 4.5, and Barrie just the 1 at 5.5 I'd hardly criticize someone for preferring Kadri in those situations.

 

[BackhandToedrag]

If I had to guess it would be the Barrie, Kadri part. Not as players, but given Kadri is signed 3 more years at 4.5, and Barrie just the 1 at 5.5 I'd hardly criticize someone for preferring Kadri in those situations.

Ok but a top pair D vs a third line centre on your depth chart I would think the top pair D might hold a little more value

 

[Taylorst]

Who won't be ready for a few years, need to take advantage of the MacKinnon/Landy contracts + Makar/Girard ELC.

This draft is deep with forwards, the question is which forward will be the sleeper .

Kadri I think as decent as he is is better suited as a 3c .

Not sure why Colorado would be willing to sacrifice the 4th overall pick for a 28 year old .

Now if Colorado was acquiring kadri , and either kap or Nylander then I'd say that's a win win deal.

 

[Foppberg]

This draft is deep with forwards, the question is which forward will be the sleeper .

Kadri I think as decent as he is is better suited as a 3c .

Not sure why Colorado would be willing to sacrifice the 4th overall pick for a 28 year old .

Now if Colorado was acquiring kadri , and either kap or Nylander then I'd say that's a win win deal.

Avs 1st, not Ottawa's 1st. Also I'd rather gamble at 4th than trade it for Nylander/Kap + Kadri.

 

[Morgs]

Timmins + Jost?

I'd be very interested in this.

Assuming Dubas would actually be willing to trade Kadri, it gives us a 3C replacement today (although big downgrade rn) with still great potential. Also gives us another top RHD prospect that could impact the NHL team soon - and a Soo Greyhound to please Dubas at that.

EDIT: Oh shit, I didn't realize Timmins was out all year. Wow that's awful.

 

[Americanadian]

I'd be very interested in this.

Assuming Dubas would actually be willing to trade Kadri, it gives us a 3C replacement today (although big downgrade rn) with still great potential. Also gives us another top RHD prospect that could impact the NHL team soon - and a Soo Greyhound to please Dubas at that.

EDIT: Oh ****, I didn't realize Timmins was out all year. Wow that's awful.

Lots of risk with Timmins but he was also partnered with Sandin for the 17/18 season.

 

[avsfan09]

Hard no.

Even with the Leafs offering up that 2nd round pick

 

[Halla]

I'd consider Avs first +Meloche although I think Meloche probably doesn't have enough value and since I really like him I think he'd be wise to keep. Maybe a 3 way trade us tossing an overpayment of futures and T.O. trading them for a Dman??

need a big upgrade om Meloche there. I'm asking Jost/Kaut + the 1st if I'm Dubas.
once Duchene goes there are gonna be 6-7 teams looking for a top 6 C that can get 30g/ 50-60pts if deployed properly

 

[Halla]

Timmins + Jost?

this is not too bad actually. as a leafs fan I'd be pretty happy with having Sandin,Liljegren and Timmons as prospects on the backend

 

[avsfan09]

need a big upgrade om Meloche there. I'm asking Jost/Kaut + the 1st if I'm Dubas.
once Duchene goes there are gonna be 6-7 teams looking for a top 6 C that can get 30g/ 50-60pts if deployed properly

If he costs that much were better off going after a better center or Kevin Hayes.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Jost +16th overall pick.

Or something built around Erik Johnson

 

[Niten Ichi Ryu]

Avs need atleast a stop gap 2c. What would Leafs be willing to do around Kadri? Avs are more than willing to trade their 1st in order to make it happen. Is a plus needed and if so how big?

Btw can we please try to keep this thread cordial? If you disagree on value don't dump on the other teams players/prospects. Explain why you value your piece higher and if the other side disagrees that's completely fair.

Yikes, Avs fans would regret this trade for a long time. Nazem Kadri turns 29 at the start of next season. He's been on the decline the past few seasons (points by year respectively, 61, 55, 44). He's out of his prime IMO, and you're willing to trade the 4th overall pick? I imagine most Avalanche fans scoff at this proposal. MacKinnon is an Av for life imo, he's still got 4 years on his bargain contract, and he's only 23.
Colorado has the most cap space of any team in the league. They can buy whoever they want in July.
That 4th overall pick could be a gem, another Landeskog or Rantanen, maybe. Leafs fans seriously overrate Kadri, thinking they could get back a top 4 d-man in return, but I don't see any team offering that for a 29 yr old declining Nazem Kadri

 

[McShogun99]

I mean... They kinda have a 4th overall pick to grab a solid #2C.

The ol'Oilers way of doing things....

 

[avsfan09]

Yikes, Avs fans would regret this trade for a long time. Nazem Kadri turns 29 at the start of next season. He's been on the decline the past few seasons (points by year respectively, 61, 55, 44). He's out of his prime IMO, and you're willing to trade the 4th overall pick? I imagine most Avalanche fans scoff at this proposal. MacKinnon is an Av for life imo, he's still got 4 years on his bargain contract, and he's only 23.
Colorado has the most cap space of any team in the league. They can buy whoever they want in July.
That 4th overall pick could be a gem, another Landeskog or Rantanen, maybe. Leafs fans seriously overrate Kadri, thinking they could get back a top 4 d-man in return, but I don't see any team offering that for a 29 yr old declining Nazem Kadri

If you read the post closer I said the Avs first not the Ottawa one.

 

[DougGilmour93]

Yikes, Avs fans would regret this trade for a long time. Nazem Kadri turns 29 at the start of next season. He's been on the decline the past few seasons (points by year respectively, 61, 55, 44). He's out of his prime IMO, and you're willing to trade the 4th overall pick? I imagine most Avalanche fans scoff at this proposal. MacKinnon is an Av for life imo, he's still got 4 years on his bargain contract, and he's only 23.
Colorado has the most cap space of any team in the league. They can buy whoever they want in July.
That 4th overall pick could be a gem, another Landeskog or Rantanen, maybe. Leafs fans seriously overrate Kadri, thinking they could get back a top 4 d-man in return, but I don't see any team offering that for a 29 yr old declining Nazem Kadri

On the decline? Surely your kidding. You realize this season he was relegated to 3c because of Tavares and Matthews? Any other team(most) he’d easily be a 2nd line centre.

 

[DougGilmour93]

I think I’d roll the dice with a deal around Jost and Timmins.

 

[GaryU]

#4OA for a selfish guy like Kadri???

 

[SnizzNasty88]

It just makes too much sense. Kadri, Connor Brown and a 3rd rounder in 2020 for Tyson Barrie and a 6th rounder. Kadri’s not far removed from back to back seasons of 32 tucks and if used in a top 6 role will get you 25-30

 

[SnizzNasty88]

I'd do that.

I would do this too.

 

[Niten Ichi Ryu]

If you read the post closer I said the Avs first not the Ottawa one.

Well underlining "their first' isn't the clearest statement. Because 'their' picks are both 4th and 16th, which both belong to Colorado, regardless if they got it from Ottawa. My mistake.
In that case it's a much closer gap, but personally I wouldn't even do the 16th for Kadri. Two high-end defenseman in Harley or Broberg, or high potential forawrds like Kaliyev or Lavoie. Maybe a 25-26 yr old kadri, but a 29 yr old declining Nazem, pass

 

[John Eichel da GOAT]

Well underlining "their first' isn't the clearest statement. Because 'their' picks are both 4th and 16th, which both belong to Colorado, regardless if they got it from Ottawa. My mistake.
In that case it's a much closer gap, but personally I wouldn't even do the 16th for Kadri. Two high-end defenseman in Harley or Broberg, or high potential forawrds like Kaliyev or Lavoie. Maybe a 25-26 yr old kadri, but a 29 yr old declining Nazem, pass

Agreed. No interest in a 29 yr old Kadri unless its magically a rental acquisition at the deadline and we give up meh picks for it, not 16OA and def not 4OA.

 

[avsfan09]

#4OA for a selfish guy like Kadri???

16#...

 

[avsfan09]

Well underlining "their first' isn't the clearest statement. Because 'their' picks are both 4th and 16th, which both belong to Colorado, regardless if they got it from Ottawa. My mistake.
In that case it's a much closer gap, but personally I wouldn't even do the 16th for Kadri. Two high-end defenseman in Harley or Broberg, or high potential forawrds like Kaliyev or Lavoie. Maybe a 25-26 yr old kadri, but a 29 yr old declining Nazem, pass

Could maybe have made it clearer but I assumed making clear it was the Avs first rather than Ottawa's made it more obvious.
And for 16# I think we can get a player more valuable but because they need development time I value Kadri higher. We can win a cup in the next few years.