Value of: Justin Braun

[Randy Randerson]

Unless we have to trade our D prospects I suggest trading our forward depth.

Bracco + 2nd 2019+ a 4th 2021 i would take all day if i was SJ and wanted to trade braun.

If they want a D then it's ransanen + . Just saying i highly doubt they trade their draft picks from this year without seeing what they have. Doesn't seem like a dubas move.

that's fair too, if SJ would take a forward prospect in place of a D prospect I would prefer that, or even a young forward like Brown

 

[loyaltotheend]

It would be something like 1st round pick and one of Leivo, Kapanen, Carrick.

Honestly, whatever team gets Braun will seriously regret it. He is a shell of what he once was and is only getting worse.

I'd probably take Kapanen off that list, otherwise fine with it. Appreciate the honesty regarding his performance

 

[Gecklund]

Unless we have to trade our D prospects I suggest trading our forward depth.

Bracco + 2nd 2019+ a 4th 2021 i would take all day if i was SJ and wanted to trade braun.

If they want a D then it's ransanen + . Just saying i highly doubt they trade their draft picks from this year without seeing what they have. Doesn't seem like a dubas move.

You’d have to include a D prospect. We have enough forwards.

 

[Liferleafer]

You’d have to include a D prospect. We have enough forwards.

Fine...Rasanen. So Rasanen+2nd+4th?

 

[Pinkfloyd]

that's fair too, if SJ would take a forward prospect in place of a D prospect I would prefer that, or even a young forward like Brown

Sharks are probably only going to be interested in forward prospects if they're dynamic players. Standard forward prospects, even those with strong odds of being a solid middle six player are things the Sharks have an abundance of now and moving forward. They need future blue liners for when they inevitably need to move on from Dillon and Braun. Hell, they could use one now to supplant DeMelo because he's the shining example of what an average 3rd pairing/7th d-man looks like when they don't do anything well but don't do anything poorly. lol

 

[Gecklund]

Fine...Rasanen. So Rasanen+2nd+4th?

Rasanen isn’t a good prospect....

 

[Randy Randerson]

Sharks are probably only going to be interested in forward prospects if they're dynamic players. Standard forward prospects, even those with strong odds of being a solid middle six player are things the Sharks have an abundance of now and moving forward. They need future blue liners for when they inevitably need to move on from Dillon and Braun. Hell, they could use one now to supplant DeMelo because he's the shining example of what an average 3rd pairing/7th d-man looks like when they don't do anything well but don't do anything poorly. lol

well the Durzi/Rasanen tier of D is still on the table from me if that goes with a 2nd rounder, Braun fits the only roster need we have for a couple of prime compete years so we'll figure out a way to re-stock the defense prospect farm

 

[seroes]

Fine...Rasanen. So Rasanen+2nd+4th?

It would have to be at least Sandin plus a 2nd. Rasanen has very little value.

 

[Liferleafer]

Rasanen isn’t a good prospect....

I know this will sound like a homer report, but i watch a lot of Marlies games...i see Ras as a darkhorse in our system, i think he becomes a solid NHLer....just me though.

 

[Gecklund]

I know this will sound like a homer report, but i watch a lot of Marlies games...i see Ras as a darkhorse in our system, i think he becomes a solid NHLer....just me though.

I get that but he has very little value.

 

[Liferleafer]

I get that but he has very little value.

Fair enough. I won't say Liljegren/Sandin "are not available"!! I'm not the GM....i will however say that if either are moved, they probably would be part of a larger package for a younger top level D. I have no issue trading for Braun/Petry/Tanev, i think they all fit our needs...i just wouldn't move one of our top D prospects for them.

 

[Gecklund]

Fair enough. I won't say Liljegren/Sandin "are not available"!! I'm not the GM....i will however say that if either are moved, they probably would be part of a larger package for a younger top level D. I have no issue trading for Braun/Petry/Tanev, i think they all fit our needs...i just wouldn't move one of our top D prospects for them.

And I get that entirely. The problem is that if it’s a 2nd+prospect there needs to be a good prospect coming back. Otherwise I’d rather a 1st depending on where it is.

 

[Liferleafer]

And I get that entirely. The problem is that if it’s a 2nd+prospect there needs to be a good prospect coming back. Otherwise I’d rather a 1st depending on where it is.

I'd easily do a 1st+2nd/Bracco/Rasanen for any of Braun/Tanev/Petry.

 

[Dog]

I'd easily do a 1st+2nd/Bracco/Rasanen for any of Braun/Tanev/Petry.

Tanev is to risky but for Braun I would. Petry i view is slightly worth less than Braun for trade based on rather not trade to Montreal a 1st +possible 2nd rounder or mid tier prospect.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

And I get that entirely. The problem is that if it’s a 2nd+prospect there needs to be a good prospect coming back. Otherwise I’d rather a 1st depending on where it is.

You aren't asking for a 2nd and a prospect though, not really, when you ask for Liljegren and a 2nd, or Sandin and a 2nd, what you are really asking for is a 1st and 2nd, because Liljegren and Sandin are the same as asking for a 1st

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I'd easily do a 1st+2nd/Bracco/Rasanen for any of Braun/Tanev/Petry.

That's to much for Braun, Braun is not the guy you sell the farm for

 

[danielpalfredsson]

If SJS acquire Karlsson, I could see Ottawa taking Braun as part of the package. The only top 4 defenders the Sens would have at that point would be Ceci and Chabot. So adding Braun would make sense.

For the Sens, it'd work out well since Braun has two years left. He could probably be flipped in 2019-20 for some futures after players like Jarod and Wolanin hopefully establish themselves as NHLers.

With that said, I am talking from a perspective of if EK went to SJS, and not necessarily endorsing that as something I'd want to see personally.

 

[namttebih]

I'd easily do a 1st+2nd/Bracco/Rasanen for any of Braun/Tanev/Petry.

If you lose Rasanen then you're looking for another RHD 3 years from now. Not to say that he's a sure fire top 4 guy, but the goal is to replenish from within once Braun's contract expires.

 

[Groo]

That's to much for Braun, Braun is not the guy you sell the farm for

That's your idea of selling the farm ?

 

[Dog]

That's to much for Braun, Braun is not the guy you sell the farm for

Braun is exactly type we need to stop gap 2 seasons. If could get him for 2nd+mid-tier prospect good luck. The only way they would move him is based on if get Karlsson deal done. Some kind of upgrade they might consider moving him. Leafs most likely will be going into season with what they have. Do not expect a trade right away but maybe possible small trade(s) later on in season.

 

[Liferleafer]

That's to much for Braun, Braun is not the guy you sell the farm for

That is far from selling the farm. The Leafs 1st will be in the low to high 20's, and the second much higher obviously. Braun is clearly an upgrade, if you can land him without disrupting the roster? Easy move.

 

[Liferleafer]

If you lose Rasanen then you're looking for another RHD 3 years from now. Not to say that he's a sure fire top 4 guy, but the goal is to replenish from within once Braun's contract expires.

Yes, but both Liljegren and Sandin are ahead of Ras...that's what they are for. We can't expect everything, if SJ needs Ras to make the deal, i pull the trigger.

 

[namttebih]

That's your idea of selling the farm ?

I think that it's fair value. I just don't want Rasanen going the other way. We have 3 possible top 4 RHD prospects but two of them are not guarantees. I'd prefer to not have to gamble on which one. See: Rask vs. Pogge

 

[namttebih]

Yes, but both Liljegren and Sandin are ahead of Ras...that's what they are for. We can't expect everything, if SJ needs Ras to make the deal, i pull the trigger.

See above...

Plus Sandin is LH. Did you mean Durzi? I think that he's pretty close in comparison as far as upside to Ras.

 

[Brock Radunske]

It would have to be at least Sandin plus a 2nd. Rasanen has very little value.

I don't think he'd cost a 1st + a 2nd.

The most that I would offer would be;

Sandin
or
2019 1st
or
2019 2nd + 2020 2nd