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While i would like to agree, as i said, if we are getting the piece we need, then we should at least try to be fair in the deal.See above...
While i would like to agree, as i said, if we are getting the piece we need, then we should at least try to be fair in the deal.See above...
Absolutely, I just think that there are other prospects that might be of a bigger need to them. They are pretty much set on the right side in this circumstance. It's counterproductive for us to do it if he's the piece going back IMO.While i would like to agree, as i said, if we are getting the piece we need, then we should at least try to be fair in the deal.
Sandin should be kept as we got him at steal at 29th. He is worth more than late 1st rounder at least how I see it. Defense we need to pile up prospects as going to depend on them for cheap entry level contracts. Think fair offer is 1st 2019+Nielsen or go 2nd 2019+2nd 2020+Carrick. As im sure other teams could use Braun as well. Just as long does not touch our high prospects.I don't think he'd cost a 1st + a 2nd.
The most that I would offer would be;
Sandin
or
2019 1st
or
2019 2nd + 2020 2nd
That's your idea of selling the farm ?
Only makes sense now if Sharks have another deal in play to bring in a better RHD. If we get into season, then yeah, the wheels would have had to fall off to trade one of out top 4 without a replacement coming back.I think this only makes sense if SJ goes through a strong fall down the standings.
Don't see it happening.
Sharks are probably only going to be interested in forward prospects if they're dynamic players. Standard forward prospects, even those with strong odds of being a solid middle six player are things the Sharks have an abundance of now and moving forward. They need future blue liners for when they inevitably need to move on from Dillon and Braun. Hell, they could use one now to supplant DeMelo because he's the shining example of what an average 3rd pairing/7th d-man looks like when they don't do anything well but don't do anything poorly. lol
Yes, but both Liljegren and Sandin are ahead of Ras...that's what they are for. We can't expect everything, if SJ needs Ras to make the deal, i pull the trigger.
Sandin should be kept as we got him at steal at 29th. He is worth more than late 1st rounder at least how I see it. Defense we need to pile up prospects as going to depend on them for cheap entry level contracts. Think fair offer is 1st 2019+Nielsen or go 2nd 2019+2nd 2020+Carrick. As im sure other teams could use Braun as well. Just as long does not touch our high prospects.
Not that it matters, but it was 1st+2nd OR prospect.There are certainly guys you trade a 1st. A 2nd and a prospect for, Justin Braun is not that guy
An ask of SJ fans...I'm familiar with Braun's reputation, but I'm not familiar with his actual game, I rarely get to see him. While I believe he's a solid defensive RD, would anyone care to flesh out his strengths and weaknesses for me? Also, do you have someone in your system who you believe can replace his presence on your blue line were he to be traded?
Braun's a good skater and it helps him all over the place make up for the reality that has stick-work and vision with the puck aren't anything special. He'll take a hit to make a play and he moves the puck out of his zone well. He pinches well to keep the puck alive in the attacking zone without getting caught much. He's not going to lay any big hits. He's not going to get involved offensively much. He doesn't have much in way of offensive instincts other than pinching along the boards to keep pucks in. With the amount of hits he takes, he could wear down sooner rather than later.
The Sharks don't have someone of his type in their system at that position but he's also not exactly difficult to replace whether it's with a similar defensive defenseman or a different type of defenseman. Sharks don't need to necessarily replace him with another shutdown style defender.
Honestly defense is really the main thing he does. He has a great first step and can catch anyone in the league. He can make the first pass but his 33 point season was misleading.Thanks, and to Mattb124 as well. As a Leaf fan he sounded like the type of D we could use before I read your comments, and I don't think anything you've said subtracts from my opinion. That said, given your comments, he doesn't 'read' as a defensive stud, but moreso as a solid player...fitting my earlier uninformed opinion. I can't see the Leafs breaking the bank for the type of player you describe, but would something like a 1st in 19 and a solid prospect be of interest? I wouldn't include Liljegren, nor perhaps Sandin, but would any of our other prospects intrigue? I'd also consider some of our wingers, at the lower end, but I don't know your needs in this area.
Not that it matters, but it was 1st+2nd OR prospect.
No!If someone else gets Karlsson, would Gardiner for Braun+ be of interest?
My comment was not to suggest he is a 30 pt. d-man year in and year out, but that he is not a pure defensive d-man who can break up the opposition's play but is unable to drive play for his team.
I’d think Sandin would be a nice piece for the Sharks future. Their backend isn’t exactly getting younger. Braun for Sandin makes sense to me if they get EK. Contend now with EK and get a nice future piece. Braun gives the Leafs flexibility on the right side until the prospects transition.
If someone else gets Karlsson, would Gardiner for Braun+ be of interest?