Player Discussion jussi jokinen thread: just jokinen

[Melvin]

Didn’t Baertschi leave the last game early? If he’s out there might be an opening.

Would rather see Boucher than Jokinen

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

I can't remember another Canuck whose tenure with the team (and NHL career) was so obviously over before he even played a shift here.

Should be in Utica and not taking icetime away from players that actually might be here next year.

Reinprecht?

 

[PG Canuck]

Starting to think jokinen wasnt a throw-in like we anticipated.

 

[y2kcanucks]

People actually anticipated that Jokinen was a throw-in? Benning doesn't work that way. He probably targeted Jokinen.

 

[LeftCoast]

People actually anticipated that Jokinen was a throw-in? Benning doesn't work that way. He probably targeted Jokinen.

Columbus was close to its 50 contract limit and required the Canucks to take Jokinen to offload a contract. The whole TDL episode is bad enough without inventing gloomier scenarios.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

Reinprecht?

brad lukowich ended up eventually getting into a few games, so you never know.

 

[y2kcanucks]

Columbus was close to its 50 contract limit and required the Canucks to take Jokinen to offload a contract. The whole TDL episode is bad enough without inventing gloomier scenarios.

Except they weren't adding on additional contracts trading Motte for Vanek straight up. If the deal were a 3rd round pick and Jokinen for Vanek then what you say would make sense, but it doesn't.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

Starting to think jokinen wasnt a throw-in like we anticipated.

i actually dgas, i mean why not throw the sedins someone they might pad stats with?

it’s like when you bring a couple of girls with younto a buddy’s bday party. worth a shot and if it doesn’t work nobody lost anything.

i mean, oh no competition for gagner, granny, baertschi. blocking some real go getters there.

goldy, well he was going to fall out of the lineup anyway. sunk cost with this coaching staff/admin.

 

[member 290103]

Starting to think jokinen wasnt a throw-in like we anticipated.

What a f***ing joke. Let's figure out what we have in Jokkinen and sit a young player like Goldobin instead. Brilliant.

 

[Lenerdosy]

Is he even with the team?

Yes and apparently Green told him he would not be in any games.

Well fxxx, just read above and apparently he's practicing with the sedins? Wtf?

 

[clunk]

Some rebuild. Sitting young players in favour of old guys on their last legs. Cool.

 

[PG Canuck]

i actually dgas, i mean why not throw the sedins someone they might pad stats with?

it’s like when you bring a couple of girls with younto a buddy’s bday party. worth a shot and if it doesn’t work nobody lost anything.

i mean, oh no competition for gagner, granny, baertschi. blocking some real go getters there.

goldy, well he was going to fall out of the lineup anyway. sunk cost with this coaching staff/admin.

You’re reasoning literally makes no sense. It’s not worth throwing a 22 year old with the Sedins but it’s worth throwing a 34 year old who has been on waivers how many times this year and how many teams?

At what point did you think this was a good post?

This is a f***ing disgrace. Rebuild my ass.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

You’re reasoning literally makes no sense. It’s not worth throwing a 22 year old with the Sedins but it’s worth throwing a 34 year old who has been on waivers how many times this year and how many teams?

At what point did you think this was a good post?

This is a ****ing disgrace. Rebuild my ass.

you misunderstand me completely, bud. i would love for them to play goldobin. of course, it is objectively the only reasonable thing to do. sit gagner, sit baertschi, hell sit boeser and let him heal properly.

but this coaching staff and this management group isn't going to do that. goldobin was always going to be the first one to sit, before gagner, before granlund, before archibald, before leipzig and motte, even before the other guy who we need to be feeding minutes to, virtanen.

so with the opportunity for goldobin already off the table, why not jokinen? i mean, wgas?

 

[PG Canuck]

you misunderstand me completely, bud. i would love for them to play goldobin. of course, it is objectively the only reasonable thing to do. sit gagner, sit baertschi, hell sit boeser and let him heal properly.

but this coaching staff and this management group isn't going to do that. goldobin was always going to be the first one to sit, before gagner, before granlund, before archibald, before leipzig and motte, even before the other guy who we need to be feeding minutes to, virtanen.

so with the opportunity for goldobin already off the table, why not jokinen? i mean, wgas?

Yeah I misunderstood you and thought you were advocating this was a good move - my fault and apologies.

Agreed - I don’t get this hate for Goldobin and honestly shocked it’s happening since Benning needs these young players he’s acquired to look good.

 

[MikeK]

Some rebuild. Sitting young players in favour of old guys on their last legs. Cool.

Right? Makes zero sense.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Travis Green

 

[Melvin]

1. I wouldn't freak out much about practice. We will see what happens in the game.
2. I mean, whatever, let all the old guys play on the same line. The important line is Boeser/Horvat
3. The writing has been on the wall for Goldobin since the season started.

 

[ProstheticConscience]

What a ****ing joke. Let's figure out what we have in Jokkinen and sit a young player like Goldobin instead. Brilliant.

I'm starting to suspect we already know what we have in Goldobin. Not that putting Jokinen with the Sedins isn't brick wall stupid, but still.

Benning gotta Benning.

 

[krutovsdonut]

1. I wouldn't freak out much about practice. We will see what happens in the game.
2. I mean, whatever, let all the old guys play on the same line. The important line is Boeser/Horvat
3. The writing has been on the wall for Goldobin since the season started.

i actually think green is still working with goldobin and this is part of it. pretty sure goldobin has not figured out what will happen next year if he does not establish himself a but more this season.

 

[member 290103]

I'm starting to suspect we already know what we have in Goldobin. Not that putting Jokinen with the Sedins isn't brick wall stupid, but still.

Benning gotta Benning.

Yes, I do agree. Goldobin just does not appear like he will amount to anything. Guess that's why the Sharks moved him. Benning should maybe figure out that most of these teams that are willing to move their younger players have pretty much figured out that they are going to bust - or else they would not move them.

Picks, Jim. Get picks. Not has been reclamation projects.

 

[Jyrki21]

Agreed - I don’t get this hate for Goldobin and honestly shocked it’s happening since Benning needs these young players he’s acquired to look good.

With Goldobin as the exception, pretty much every player Benning has acquired has immediately been inserted into the lineup and given decent ice-time, so I actually did and do expect Jokinen to play.

It does seem weird that whatever implied or express directive there has been on the coaches hasn't applied to Goldobin, though.

 

[me2]

We need to find out what we have in Jussi. He could be a key part of this team going forward and we need to make decisions on what terms and conditions for next contract. I encourage fans to calm down and give him a chance, a decent chance, it can take some of these guys two or three years to find their feet, so can we take a chill pill and come back and reevaluate in 2022. mmm ok?

 

[krutovsdonut]

It does seem weird that whatever implied or express directive there has been on the coaches hasn't applied to Goldobin, though.

it was applied last year iirc to force willie to play him.

 

[Melvin]

With Goldobin as the exception, pretty much every player Benning has acquired has immediately been inserted into the lineup and given decent ice-time, so I actually did and do expect Jokinen to play.

It does seem weird that whatever implied or express directive there has been on the coaches hasn't applied to Goldobin, though.

It doesn't apply to Russians, apparently. Tryamkin was jerked around in a similar fahion and Burmistrov to a lesser extent although he wasn't very good (but not worse than Sam Gagner really.)

 

[Wo Yorfat]

He's a 2 goal game away from a Gagner 3x3 special.