More GarbageWe're still going with the dramatic fatalism even after being wrong over and over, eh?
Sure, why not.
**** it, he'll be 1C next year and play 83 regular season games.
Will you grow up already. Stop attacking the poster and make a cogent counter argument. You derail every thread with your childish DH obsession. We are all here to talk hockey. If you don't want to talk hockey fine, just stick to the sandwich thread.
Opinions are just that but some on here hate when people just don't like the team it the players on it. No need to call out shit just let people have opinions and carry on.There's a difference between talking about hockey and just spreading falsehoods like it's the truth and then when confronted about this, they are never able to back it up but still keep circulating it. Arguing in bad faith is a pretty **** thing to do and it's good to call it out.
Will you grow up already. Stop attacking the poster and make a cogent counter argument. You derail every thread with your childish DH obsession. We are all here to talk hockey. If you don't want to talk hockey fine, just stick to the sandwich thread.
Pathetic
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Wrong. The problem isn't opinions, the problem is factually incorrect statements.Opinions are just that but some on here hate when people just don't like the team it the players on it. No need to call out **** just let people have opinions and carry on.
What's lies on a message board though?Wrong. The problem isn't opinions, the problem is factually incorrect statements.
When people make up lies, they should be called out for it.
You can't just lie and then defend it by saying it's an opinion, because it isn't one.
When someone says something that they know is false. They say it anyway because they think it helps their argument and they hope other people are dumb enough to blindly accept the incorrect information.What's lies on a message board though?
Two common lies.What is the lie that people keep getting mad about? I am confused about what is going on here. It looks like deadhead is saying he thinks that Hextall and Co. think Lehtera is the best option ATM. Is that the lie?
It's there opinion though and others just don't like it but what a poster puts on here is what they believe so it's just opinions and that is all. Enjoy the summer boys.When someone says something that they know is false. They say it anyway because they think it helps their argument and they hope other people are dumb enough to blindly accept the incorrect information.
You think sanheim is better and that's your opinion and your untitled to it but others in here believe different and that's there opinion. Enjoy the summer boys lol.Two common lies.
1) that there was nobody better
2) that Hakstol only used them because he had no choice
Uh no, lies and opinions are different things.It's there opinion though and others just don't like but what a posters out on here is what they believe so it's just opinions and that is all. Enjoy the summer boys.
Ok see those things sound like opinions (both opinions of the poster and opinions of the coaches). You may disagree with both the poster and the coaches, but that doesn't mean they are lies. Unless, of course, you think that by playing Lehtera the coaches are knowingly playing a worse player that will hurt the team. The real "lie" around here is this false narrative that the coaches refuse to play young players, given that they have consistently played young players since taking over. Yes, not EVERY young player has played and yes, sometimes young players have been healthy scratched at times, but there isn't some secret conspiracy to no play young players. This false narrative seems a lot more troubling than a poster saying Lehtera is the best option or that Hakstok's hand was forced to play him.Two common lies.
1) that there was nobody better
2) that Hakstol only used them because he had no choice
Seems like a perfect fit, based on the thread title.Now this is a ****ing patheticly useless thread to be using.
Ok see those things sound like opinions (both opinions of the poster and opinions of the coaches). You may disagree with both the poster and the coaches, but that doesn't mean they are lies. Unless, of course, you think that by playing Lehtera the coaches are knowingly playing a worse player that will hurt the team.
You listed two lies: the first was that there was nobody better and the second was that there was no other option. If it is A) Deadhead's opinion and B) Hakstok's opinion that Lehtera was better than the alternatives, then the first part of your complaint is not a lie, it is a disagreement in opinion (unless, like I said, Hakstok thought Lehtera was the worse option and played him any way knowing that it would hurt the team). As for the second part, I believe you may be taking the words too literally. I don't think that Deadhead's position is literally that there were no other options. Obviously Deadhead understands that there were other players in this organization that could have played, I think the point is no other option or was forced to play him or however you want to phrase is that Lehtera was better in his eyes, so he had no choice but to play him (unless, again, Hakstok thought Lehtera was worse but played him anyway knowing that he would hurt the team).1) By any evaluation method - eye test, normal stats, advanced stats - Lehtera was the worst option. And I'm sure Hakstol believed he was the best option... that's my entire point.... that's why I'm saying it's a lie to claim that Hakstol "only used him because he had no other choice" and "had no other options"... he obviously used him because he mistakenly thought he was the best option. So the bolded part of your post makes no sense.
2) It is an indisputable fact that there were other options. They didn't have exactly 12 forwards and 6 defensemen. Players sat so Lehtera could play. Those players were alternatives. Hakstol had options.
Is that your thing now? Posting something then getting mad when people disagree and then you refuse to discuss it? Maybe just don't post things if you don't want to discuss them.Neither are opinions, both are incorrect statements. I already explained why, I'm not going to do it again.
He knows they're incorrect statements, but said them anyway to defend Hakstol. That means they're lies.
I know what you're doing. You know what you're doing. Everyone on the board knows what you're doing. You're predictable and transparent.
I'm not getting baited into it. Conversation over.