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Yeah, of course, your last 3/4 posts prove you're not that petty.I'm not that petty...not for nonsense like that at least
Yeah, of course, your last 3/4 posts prove you're not that petty.I'm not that petty...not for nonsense like that at least
Which was fine...I just don't know why you felt the need to add me playing devil's advocate...I asked you a question, which you responded after your needless swipe at me.I didn't answer your question because I have some doubts about Sergachev's defensive play. Offensively, I have no doubts. So I did answer your question. Sergachev will look good offensively no matter what team he's on. Drouin has a bad attitude no matter what team he's on. had one in tampa and had one here last year. Let's trade him and see if my intuition is correct.
You realize Bergevin himself doesn't think Drouin should play center right? He said so himself.I don't think Alex Galchenyuk is any more of a natural center than Jonathan is a center....they've both shown an aptitude to play both positions to varying degrees of success. But reading this thread, you'd think Galchenyuk was Patrice Bergeron down the middle.
For the time being, and it doesn't appear as though this is going to change no matter how much we beat each other over the head, Galchenyuk is a winger and Drouin a center.
I don't think Drouin had a very good year as a center, but I did think he made some progress (aka development) towards the last quarter of the year (which probably was mostly result of his TOI spiking up) and that given they invested an entire season in converting him to center, it would make no sense to now move him back to center and put Galchenyuk back in the middle. THAT's, what would be hypocritical.
Agreed but as I said before...I don't care what comes out of his mouth, it's hot air as far as I'm concerned.You realize Bergevin himself doesn't think Drouin should play center right? He said so himself.
He is only going forward with this strategy because it gives him leeway if he can't secure getting a top centerman this summer.
This is a PR stunt by Bergevin. That's really all it is.
really? so the hypocrisy continues for 2 seasons......? Why not try Galchenyuk there.......Agreed but as I said before...I don't care what comes out of his mouth, it's hot air as far as I'm concerned.
Drouin barring the unlikely scenario of Bergrvin landing 2 top 6C's IS going to play center.
And I do believe he has the ability to get better as a center with more reps and a better supporting cast around him.
I also believed Galchenyuk would of gotten better as a center with more reps.really? so the hypocrisy continues for 2 seasons......? Why not try Galchenyuk there.......
What does that mean? After watching him play last year you think Drouin is capable of playing center?
It's a mistake for both. Drouin isn't a goddamn center, and Galchy is better at center. Not rocket science. They're making mistakes with both players. How is that good?
Kinda funny to see shifting opinions on Bergevin depending on what he says...Well you said MB admitted he wasn't a center as if that is proof of some kind. MB has already shown he can't evaluate who is/isn't a good center so him saying Drouin isn't a center is completely meaningless.
Kinda funny to see shifting opinions on Bergevin depending on what he says...
Typically, everything/anything that comes out of his mouth is seen negatively here, he's an idiot that can do no right...
yet he says "in an ideal world Drouin is a winger"...
and all of a sudden his word is bond again.
I guess it depends on if you agree with what he says I supposeAnyone can see that in an ideal world Drouin IS a winger.
Nobody thought our defence was going to be better this year - that was clear at the time that it wasn't true.
Just because somebody spews bull-**** most of the time doesn't mean they can't be right.
Just because somebody spews bull-**** most of the time doesn't mean they can't be right.
If 90% of what someone says is BS, then even when he's right that 10% of the time he shouldn't be used to prop up an argument.
I mean sure a broken clock can be right twice a day, but if I was trying to convince someone what time it was I wouldn't bring up the broken clock as proof of the current time even if it was showing the right time in that moment.
are you trying to say Bergevin is a smart person here ? ? ?Kinda funny to see shifting opinions on Bergevin depending on what he says...
Typically, everything/anything that comes out of his mouth is seen negatively here, he's an idiot that can do no right...
yet he says "in an ideal world Drouin is a winger"...
and all of a sudden his word is bond again.
If a fool should persist in his folly, he shall become wise.Well you said MB admitted he wasn't a center as if that is proof of some kind. MB has already shown he can't evaluate who is/isn't a good center so him saying Drouin isn't a center is completely meaningless.
If a fool should persist in his folly, he shall become wise.
-William Blake
Even an idiot like MB can learn. Unless you think he's on the level of a door knob.
are you trying to say Bergevin is a smart person here ? ? ?
Agreed but as I said before...I don't care what comes out of his mouth, it's hot air as far as I'm concerned.
Drouin barring the unlikely scenario of Bergrvin landing 2 top 6C's IS going to play center.
And I do believe he has the ability to get better as a center with more reps and a better supporting cast around him.
Kinda funny to see shifting opinions on Bergevin depending on what he says...
Typically, everything/anything that comes out of his mouth is seen negatively here, he's an idiot that can do no right...
yet he says "in an ideal world Drouin is a winger"...
and all of a sudden his word is bond again.
Why should we ignore it? It isn't inconsistent.I think he's saying Bergevin is an idiot so no matter what he says we should ignore it.
Well I don't think it will need two top centers. Bergevin needs to get one center that he feels is better than Drouin, from there, he probably re-signs Plekanec and also has Danault.
Even if he doesn't re-sign Plek or any other depth center, I could see them use Danault as the #2, as they did this year.
Becoming ''better'' at center should not be what we are looking for when it comes to Drouin. We should be going for his max potential playmaking winger. I don't want him to become a 50pt centerman. We have had those for years, it's pointless.
I want him to become that incredible winger he was drafted to become, popping in the 70-80pts. That is what we should be working towards with Drouin. Not crossing our fingers that he could hopefully adapt at center and become decent. **** that man.
I mean, of course, the more he plays at center, the more comfortable he will become, and the better his wingers, well the better he will also be. That applies to anybody, but it's a loser's plan.
Excellence is what we should be looking at. We can't miss with Drouin. We traded away a solid young D that would have become our best puck mover as a rookie last year, who definitely, himself, looks like his headed towards excellence. So we need the same from Drouin. We need to put him in his comfortable position, which is the wing, and bring him support.
Not thrust him into a position he clearly struggled in, and hope he goes from mediocre to good.
Why should we ignore it? It isn't inconsistent.
Drouin didn't have a good season, he struggled at center, and he has been a winger for quite some time.
Even Bergevin realizes it.
If I ask a bunch of my friends the answer to a simple problem, but they can't find it, only the idiot in the back that finds the answer..you can laugh and say ''even this idiot knew they answer!''.
No different here. Doesn't matter whether Bergevin is an idiot or not, point is, Drouin didn't have that good of a season, he was used off position, and if we had better centers, fact is he would have been used on the wing.
Of course they can.One question for you.
Do you think players are unable to get better even if played in so-called "not the right position"?