Blue Jays Discussion: Joe Panik: the hero we deserve

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  1. stickty111 Registered User

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    Him hitting 1st guaranteed him getting most of the at bats so that was a problem. All he did was hit soft singles and nothing else.
     
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    Always liked him, hopefully Walker can get his walks down. Was with the Braves, the old Roark-Edwards swap.
     
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    But Ned Yost and the Royals did the same thing and won that year so who are we to judge :sarcasm:
     
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    2021 Top Prospects | THE BOARD | FanGraphs
    Moreno made FG's top 100 prospect list. Gives the Jays 7 top 100 prospects. Though it is criminal that Manoah isnt rated. He may be the Jays best prospect right now.

    Encouraging to Van Eyk and guys like Merryweather so high. Amazes me that Smith is 14th, wonder if we can use him as trade bait if he is seen as an MLB player. Danner moving up as well now that he is a pitcher.
     
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    I think the Top 100 was released in the offseason, when it was a bit more reasonable to have Manoah off the list. At 45+ he was borderline, so after his spring training and the way the season has started, I'm guessing he's added pretty soon.
     
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    That name has seemed to fade away this past year. Shatkins have been great with the exception of a couple early trades
     
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    Solid starts to tonights games for the Jays best position prospects. Hiraldo HR and a double in 2 at bats. Martinez a HR. Martin 1/2 with a run, Moreno 1/2, RBI, and he's thrown a base stealer out, Groshans 2 for 2 with a double and 2 RBI. Lopez 2 for 2 with a double and 2 runs
     
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    Nowhere close to being a prospect, but what's with Christian Colon? This is his 6th game (so "really tiny sample" is probably a perfectly fine explanation) but he has 3 HR, 3 SB, 5 BB, 1 K... considering his track record, this is a crazy week that I didn't think he was capable of.
     
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    Sounds like Phelps is out for the long haul. Man players are dropping like flies
     
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    Just to add:

    The following players had a better OBP than the Hitz King on the 2015 Jays:

    Jose Bautista
    Edwin Encarnacion
    Josh Donaldson
    Chris Colabello
    Devon Travis

    Having the 6th best OBP doesn't sound too bad. And it would've been fine if he hit soft singles and got on base, but he didn't. The fact that he couldn't take a walk hindered him significantly because for as much as he was able to get hits, that was kneecapped by the fact that he should've been able to reach base far more frequently than he did.

    For consideration, if we set players to need a minimum of 50PAs with the 2015 Jays, the following players had worse walk rates than Ben Revere's 5.3%:

    Danny Valencia
    Kevin Pillar

    That's it.

    I mean... Ben Revere posted a .354 OBP with the Blue Jays while hitting .314. Cavan Biggio has for his MLB career posted a .363 OBP while hitting like 80 points worse than that.

    That's mind boggling.
     
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    Hagen Danner with a perfect 9th for Vancouver, 1 K.
     
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    Another “under the radar” prospect I was going to bring up. Great spin rate but command has to come back.
     
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    Omg Sean Reid Foley and Jordan Romano have the same windup or very close. Who copied who.
     
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    14-17 record against teams not being Atlanta. I hope that turns around. Jays need to win the next 2 games against Philly.
     
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    I found out he got it from SRF. :)
     
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    The Jays haven't gotten to play the awful teams yet though. They still have like 20 games against Baltimore and will get some against Detroit as well.
     
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    Odds that Logan Warmoth turn out to be the Jays best 1st round pick from the 2017 draft after he redeems his career out of nowhere and Pearson has his career derailed by injuries? :sarcasm:
     
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    Vladimir Guerrero Jr. showing significant improvement on defence for Toronto Blue Jays - TSN.ca

    We tend to focus so much on Vladimir Guerrero Jr.’s offence because he can be a force with a bat in his hands.

    For the longest time, the only attention that has been paid to his defence is identifying his inadequacies initially as a third baseman, then again when he made the move to first base last season. But he deserves to have his hard work acknowledged. He is a much better first baseman this season and it is due to his desire to be a better third baseman.

    Much has been made of Guerrero’s weight loss and conditioning. He is in much better shape this year and the results are showing. He had hoped to be able to play third base again, and the Jays did a good job by leaving open that possibility of that happening to reward his motivation to get in shape. But there wasn’t any configuration of the roster that realistically had him as the everyday third baseman.

    The great news is that Guerrero’s improvement offensively and defensively has reinforced the benefit of his better physical condition. The positive results offensively are clear, as he is among the leaders in a number of statistical categories.

    Defensively, he is making plays that he couldn’t even imagine a year ago. Playing defence is as much about footwork as it is soft hands to catch the ball. His footwork is dramatically improved.

    Another reason for his improved defensive performance is experience. Guerrero wasn’t properly prepared last season to play first base, but his poor physical condition upon reporting for Summer Camp left the Jays no other choice. He has had to experience every play at least once to learn what the angles and footwork are like on the right side of the infield. Now he knows what to expect and what to do when it happens.

    It is hard to imagine that he would have doubts about his abilities but it is natural for even the best players to wonder whether they’ll ever figure things out. Guerrero’s self-confidence is back. He has the same posture and confident look that he showed in the minor leagues. He moves freely without hesitancy this season in a way that we didn’t see for a couple of years.

    It is hard to know cause and effect when a player’s confidence wanes. Did his struggles on offence affect his defence or was it the other way around? Did he just have doubts about all that he had to overcome? Did the way he feels about his new physique bring back his swagger, or was it the success that he had because of his new body?

    The mental part of the game is impossible to quantify, but it is at times more important than the physical skills of a player. How a player feels about himself and how he sees himself affect how he plays. The best players have a confidence in themselves that borders on cockiness. They don’t let mistakes or failures change the way they feel about their abilities.
     
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    Pujlos to the Dodgers
     
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    What an odd way to look at things...
     
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    What's wrong with what I said? 14-17 against anyone that's not Atlanta, that's just a simple fact. I feel like they need to win this series just for themselves and keep up in with the other teams in our division early in the season.
     
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    They're 8-14 against teams not named Atlanta, Tampa Bay or New York. Basically out of it at this point :sarcasm:
     
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    It would be different if they were dominating Baltimore and Detroit and Minnesota (like the Yankees and Red Sox are) while struggling against good teams. But they're 6-0 against one of the best teams in the league and firmly in contention without having played any of the bottom-feeders yet.

    Every team looks worse if you remove the teams they beat up on from their record. It's meaningless.
     
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