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Oilers fan here, what happened to the Connor-Laine experiment? It seemed like they were unstoppable.
Dumb head coach!
Oilers fan here, what happened to the Connor-Laine experiment? It seemed like they were unstoppable.
I wasn't addressing you directly or I would have quoted you. There is plenty of Wheeler bashing on here - mostly predicated by the fact that there is another RW on this team with fans who aren't so much Jets fans as fans of the player.It's not Wheeler bashing, it is being realistic and not head over heels about him. Fact is he isn't a good goal scorer, there are a handful of better goal scorers in the jets lineup. Objectively better, their stats will show a much better G/60 ratio. Wheeler is pretty good on PP as a playmaker and should stay on that but he isn't very good 5 on 5 and other players in the Jets roster would provide better results for the team if they plaued in that spot. It's not an argument to elevate a player, it's an argument to elevate the team. You elevate the team by paying people to their strengths. When goals are needed, goal scorers need to be on the ice rather than grinders.
I don't get why people don't understand it's a suggestion for betterment of the whole team because that's exactly what it is.
Paul Maurice doing Paul Maurice things.Oilers fan here, what happened to the Connor-Laine experiment? It seemed like they were unstoppable.
Wheeler has shown significantly higher capability of driving the play - at both ends of the ice, that is - than Laine has. Both the eye and the numbers seem to back this up.I wasn't addressing you directly or I would have quoted you. There is plenty of Wheeler bashing on here - mostly predicated by the fact that there is another RW on this team with fans who aren't so much Jets fans as fans of the player.
Blake Wheeler has shown an elite level of performance for many years here, and continues to do so. He is our Captain and there is no way we challenge for a Cup without him.
I wasn't addressing you directly or I would have quoted you. There is plenty of Wheeler bashing on here - mostly predicated by the fact that there is another RW on this team with fans who aren't so much Jets fans as fans of the player.
Blake Wheeler has shown an elite level of performance for many years here, and continues to do so. He is our Captain and there is no way we challenge for a Cup without him.
Wheeler has shown significantly higher capability of driving the play - at both ends of the ice, that is - than Laine has. Both the eye and the numbers seem to back this up.
What numbers?
Well shut my mouth
(Offensively, positive numbers are good and negative ones are bad. As for defensive impact, it's the opposite.)
Literally 3 people in this thread even mentioned Petan, and none of them were overly critical of him not playing or even close to suggesting the loss had anything to do with it.
We get it, your 12th forward, especially in a Maurice coached team, has little significance. Anything else to offer?
And obviously that is your one takeaway from providing proof for Laine being a worse driver of offense and a higher liability on defense.I really don't know what that Rorschach test is supposed to say.
Penalties taken is much higher for Wheeler, don't know how that's a positive. One of his least impressive traits.
How about goals for/60 or 5 on 5 +/- over the past 2 and 1/3rd of seasons? Stuff that matters, results?
And obviously that is your one takeaway from providing proof for Laine being a worse driver of offense and a higher liability on defense.
That's an awfully long way of saying 'that doesn't suit my narrative.'I really don't care about driving. I care about results. Driving the line doesn't win games, goals do. In a universe where line driving is the deciding factor of winner in a hockey game, Wheeler could be perceived as a bigger threat for opponents. But in this universe and reality we live in, Laone gets better results with worse minutes and linemates.
I feel people use the "line driving" argument to redefine hockey but hockey is not going to be redefined.
He used to be a bigger scoring threat, though never surpassing the mid-20s in goal scoring. He seems to miss the net 90% of the time. He has, however, become an elite PP passer.Wheeler is a good hockey player , no doubt about it , but i have 2 questions about him right now , what has happened to his shot and why hasn't he driven to the net like he used to ? I'm not bashing Wheeler , he definitely helps us more than hurts us but it's just amazing to me that both of these things seem to be gone from his game .
That's an awfully long way of saying 'that doesn't suit my narrative.'
I really don't care about driving. I care about results. Driving the line doesn't win games, goals do. In a universe where line driving is the deciding factor of winner in a hockey game, Wheeler could be perceived as a bigger threat for opponents. But in this universe and reality we live in, Laine gets better results with worse minutes and linemates.
I feel people use the "line driving" argument to redefine hockey but hockey is not going to be redefined. It's still measured in actualized results, goals.
So would your ideal line include the three players with the highest goal totals? Or do you value things like passing, puck retrieval, zone entry at all?
GO JETS GO !!!Man I wish there was a game tonight
To no one in particular, how is it a bad thing to try Connor Scheifele Laine when you need a goal?
Schief is the best C, Laine is the best goal scorer and Connor is the best LW.
I hope this isn’t taken as Wheeler bashing or Laine pumping, it’s just what makes sense when you’re down late in a game.
Not necessarily but I would of course try to maximize the chances of my best shooters because logic. Scheifele is best at retrieval, him and Laine are also the best passers in the team. Connor is good at zone entries and so are the other 2. It sounds like a great balance and all players can score. It would be more of a rush line, the other lines could do their cycling. Because with this line, you just need to get into the zone and it's an immediate threat. Laine and Chef read eachother perfectly and play short passes and open up chances that way.
Saturdays are reserved for Leafs games .Man I wish there was a game tonight
Paul Maurice doing Paul Maurice things.