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Would you guys trade Pavelic for Fleury straight up?
Probably I would. He's still a good regular season goalie and right now that's what we need.
Would you guys trade Pavelic for Fleury straight up?
Would you guys trade Pavelic for Fleury straight up?
I'm assuming he gets signed to a 3-4m deal in PHX, because of all the teams I think that's the only place he signs for that kind of deal.
I also like Yandle because he's a real good OFD and gives us more options to move Buff since he's a LHD.
Some stats:
Yandle is #3 in Dman assists and points in the past 3 seasons, #6 in goal scoring, and is +21 throughout that time.
Byfuglien is #2 in points, goals, and #6 in assists over the past 3 seasons with a -6 rating.
I'd also love to see Ribeiro come to the Jets, we should theoretically be able to afford him when he comes to UFA.
So the scenario is Smith resigns in Phoenix and then Maloney ships him out?
It's not a question about Yandle's offensive production to me, it's trying to figure out how the pieces would then fit pairing and role wise. As Garret mentions, Yandle and Buff would be great offensively, but we would then need Enstrom to handle tough minutes with Bogo.
Enstrom is a two way player anyways. Personally I'd rather spread my shutdown around on a couple of pairings, but I can definitely see the merits of having a shutdown line and an offensive line. Eventually we could replace Buff with Trouba and a good offensive forward coming back, and put Bogo/Trouba out there playing the tough minutes.
I'd also love to pry Brodin out of MIN to pair him with Bogo/Buff. He's looking like a great shutdown dman, and he plays as a LHD which would be perfect for us.
Ya Yandle get's softer minutes and severely pushed into OZS more than any in our top 4. He is basically treated how Postma was for us... just given a lot more minutes.
If we had Yandle it would probably be to pair up with Byfuglien, and we'd still need a tough minute person to go with Bogosian (I guess Enstrom could work?)...
That be a lot of $$$ in our top 4 D next season, although it be interesting having a core like:
Enstrom-Bogosian
Yandle-Byfuglien
It's OEL and whoever is with him (usually this season Zbynek) who take the tough minutes.
Speaking of OEL... he's ****ing awesome in those said tough mins.
I'd also love to pry Brodin out of MIN to pair him with Bogo/Buff. He's looking like a great shutdown dman, and he plays as a LHD which would be perfect for us.
Fat chance of that happening. Think Bogo +.
Fat chance of that happening. Think Bogo +.
His stock is extremely high. How many kids come into the league and immediately slot into the 1st pairing and play a solid shut down role? Out of 5 season, Bogosian has only played one with more minutes/gm than Brodin this year. His trade value is tremendously high. Most of his points are at ES, and his pace is a bit below Bogosians. How many 19 year olds pull that kind of season off?
He's an absolute stud, and if Trouba has a similar year in the fall I'd be ecstatic.
I love Brodin but he is playing with Suter so who can make people look pretty good. "IF" we had the Suter and paired him with Trouba this year I believe Jacob has what it takes to rise to that occasion based on what I have seen.
On the Phoenix board (and Yandle trade threads) some Yotes posters seem to feel that Yandle gets the O zone starts because he is so good offensively and they don't need him to play the toughs. Less sheltering that maximizing his talents if that makes sense. Not saying they are correct but it sounds like they don't feel Yandle is a problem defensively they just feel Phoenix have better options for the shut downs rolls and it frees up Yandle to be Yandle.......thoughts?
His stock is extremely high. How many kids come into the league and immediately slot into the 1st pairing and play a solid shut down role? Out of 5 season, Bogosian has only played one with more minutes/gm than Brodin this year. His trade value is tremendously high. Most of his points are at ES, and his pace is a bit below Bogosians. How many 19 year olds pull that kind of season off?
He's an absolute stud, and if Trouba has a similar year in the fall I'd be ecstatic.
The nerd stats suggest Brodin was the one lifting that pairing.
Could (legitimately) also be that everybody else there is so terrible that they dragged Suter down.
Never said that he wasn't good or that his stock wasn't high. But he's not worth Bogosian + right now.
There is another smooth skating Swedish D man that is having one heck of a post-season in Chicago.Absolutely, Huffer.
Brodin might be a smooth skating, puck moving dman, that can help get the puck out of the zone during the regular season. But he had a tougher time during the playoffs, iirc, when the play gets a bit more gritty, and more obstruction is let go. Btw, that also goes for another smooth skating Swedish dman in Ottawa.
Now, Brodin doesn't have Karlsson's offensive game, but the comparison was... in the playoffs, you need to have more to your game than being a smooth skating, puck-moving dman. I worry about Enstrom for the same reason.
Now Bogo has a big-time physical side to his game, plus he has an offensive game every bit of what Brodin has shown so far, imo.
That, imo, makes Bogo's value higher.
There is another smooth skating Swedish D man that is having one heck of a post-season in Chicago.
Never said that he wasn't good or that his stock wasn't high. But he's not worth Bogosian + right now.
I'm fairly certain that Philadelphia will use their comliance buyout on Danny Briere (and possibly Bryz) Briere isn't young any more, but I think he's got enough juice left to slot in that 2nd line RW or C role.
There is another smooth skating Swedish D man that is having one heck of a post-season in Chicago.
God willing we actually make the post season it would be unbelievable to have this guy around. One of a few little men that actually excel more in the playoffs.
We have 215 forwards whose talent and usage lead to an expectation of at least 10 playoff points. If variance were the only factor in play, we would expect about 5% of them -- about 11 players -- to be more than two standard errors away from their regular season scoring rate. We actually see 13 people outside that envelope, which is in quite good agreement.