Post-Game Talk: Jets 4 - Dead Wings 1

[Johnny HFBOARDS]

skinner might be a good goal, plays deep and uses his posts, leans low though

i should take it to the main thread.... im watching old jets

 

[Atoyot]

You are the one who stated you don't want them playing against the other teams top lines not me. So that leaves the bottom 2 lines based on the rules you stated. So tell us how you figure the would work out in the road when the other team has last change?

Okay. I'm on board. Let's play them exclusively against the opponents' 3rd and 4th lines. That's 20+ minutes a night!

 

[DeepFrickinValue]

Mcdavid gonna be out a while?

 

[Atoyot]

Mcdavid gonna be out a while?

1-2 weeks I think they said.

 

[Johnny HFBOARDS]

as I leave



HAHA classic Wheels

thats a goal

should have been okay

 

[Atoyot]

as I leave



HAHA classic Wheels

thats a goal

If the score was reversed it would have been.

 

[Johnny HFBOARDS]

w2e all know he's gonnna have a hetty vs us next time

 

[The Blue Baron]

4 out 5 John McLeans

our American players came through! Praise the lord baby Jesus!


onwards and upwards!

 

[SSCBLUEJET]

Who are these bottom six guys ?
It can't be the Jets lol!
What a nice luxury.

 

[TheBuyckStopsHere]

How Bout Dem Apples??

 

[Jet]

Moving Apples to the 3rd line was a good move, I A FA LLO is a gate keeper until Vilardi comes back, he has played well though. Without Helle in these last 3 games the outcomes might of been much different

And without our poor goaltending in our 3 losses we could be undefeated

 

[Tom ServoMST3K]

Nice little run here to erase the slow start is key. Can't let a season get away from you in month one, otherwise it's a loooooong climb back.

 

[raideralex99]

And without our poor goaltending in our 3 losses we could be undefeated

Is it poor goaltending?
Maybe its a bad bounce/deflection, bad defense or guessed wrong or a good play/good shot by the opposing player.
Hellebuyck is a top goalie yes he will have a bad game here and there but he will not turn into a bad goalie overnight.

 

[raideralex99]

Is the Red Wings game the one Needtorideher and crystal Ehlers finally show up and contribute!?

The Sip always come through big time.

 

[WolfHouse]

Conner and Scheifele with Vilardi were a 75% XGF line with 3 gf and 0 against.

Since Vilardi has been injured they are 2 goals for and 3 against while posting an awful 35% XGF%.

Sure these sample sizes are pretty small but throw in all the past years worth of data and it should be pretty darn clear to the coaching staff that you can't count on Mark and Kyle playing big minutes together 5 on 5 unless you have the perfect line mate. They are getting crushed right now.

Perfetti started taking the draws back half of the game because the coaching staff clued in on Namestnikov not being able to win any, which was a good move on their part as Cole went 67% on the dot tonight. Now that he's scoring and confident I'd like to see him gradually moved back into the middle.

Holy agenda... names was 50% on faceoffs and so was perfetti on the two he took haha - one early in the 2nd and one early in the 3rd... bet you names was kicked out of the circle on both...

Scheif and Lowry got torched all game but somehow you single out namestnikov because you want perfetti to magically be 2C

Perfetti will continue to take a few draws a game bur names is our 2C until there's actually a real reason to replace him

 

[Deno]

Helle is back.
As long as this continues the Jets are a PO team.

 

[KingBogo]

Nice little run here to erase the slow start is key. Can't let a season get away from you in month one, otherwise it's a loooooong climb back.

We already back in a good position as the 1st month draws to a close. Other than the 2 division leaders most of the western teams have been pretty scrambled to start.

 

[Jets 31]

Good road game, Helly back to being Helly. Lowry , Appleton and Neo with very good games and Ehlers looking better. 3 wins in a row ..........

 

[surixon]

Holy agenda... names was 50% on faceoffs and so was perfetti on the two he took haha - one early in the 2nd and one early in the 3rd... bet you names was kicked out of the circle on both...

Scheif and Lowry got torched all game but somehow you single out namestnikov because you want perfetti to magically be 2C

Perfetti will continue to take a few draws a game bur names is our 2C until there's actually a real reason to replace him

If you are going to dispute my facts please research beforehand as this information is readily available. Namestnikov was 0 and 5 on the dot last night where Perfetti was 2 and 1.

Namestnikov has a team worst 35% winning record on faceoffs and unlike Perfetti doesn't have the excuse of being a young player just learning the craft. If we are going to suffer through that low a faceoff% I'd rather it be by a kid who has the ability to grow that aspect of his game.

I'm not sure what either Mark or Adam have to do with this conversation as both have been better on the dot than Namestnikov this year and neither plays on the same line as Cole. I know you like the guy but he's not the long term answer at 2C and the org is going to have to eventually put Cole back in that spot.

 

[WolfHouse]

If you are going to dispute my facts please research beforehand as this information is readily available. Namestnikov was 0 and 5 on the dot last night where Perfetti was 2 and 1.

Namestnikov has a team worst 35% winning record on faceoffs and unlike Perfetti doesn't have the excuse of being a young player just learning the craft. If we are going to suffer through that low a faceoff% I'd rather it be by a kid who has the ability to grow that aspect of his game.

I'm not sure what either Mark or Adam have to do with this conversation as both have been better on the dot than Namestnikov this year and neither plays on the same line as Cole. I know you like the guy but he's not the long term answer at 2C and the org is going to have to eventually put Cole back in that spot.

Where are you getting your stats? I got mine from nhl.com and hockey reference... I kind of assumed the NHL boxscore would be correct

 

[ghyrti]

Is it poor goaltending?
Maybe its a bad bounce/deflection, bad defense or guessed wrong or a good play/good shot by the opposing player.
Hellebuyck is a top goalie yes he will have a bad game here and there but he will not turn into a bad goalie overnight.

I don't feel like going back to look at previous years or other teams to see how strong the correlation is between 5 on 5 goaltending and the standings, but here is the goaltending comparisons for the games so far.

5 on 5 goals saved above expected
Jets	Opposition	Difference	Result
-1.29​	0.1​	-1.39​	L
0.82​	-0.7​	1.52​	W
-1.12​	0.3​	-1.42​	L
-0.2​	1.11​	-1.31​	L
1.56​	1.23​	0.33​	W(OT)
1.63​	-0.37​	2​	W
1.16​	-1.43​	2.59​	W

 

[kanadalainen]

Love the new look offence. If Ehlers and Nino warm up a bit we are going to be a happy bunch. Coal Perfecto starting to stack the assists too.

 

[kanadalainen]

to do with this conversation as both have been better on the dot than Namestnikov this year and neither plays on the same line as Cole.

One more spelling comment - its Coal... C O A L. Thank you.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

Appleton and Namestnikov had strong games IMO along with Helle of course.

Nice to see Ehlers pot one but what the heck was up with that 2nd period interview???

 

[surixon]

Where are you getting your stats? I got mine from nhl.com and hockey reference... I kind of assumed the NHL boxscore would be correct

Natural statrick. NHL.com also has him at zero percent on the night and Cole at 67%

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