Post-Game Talk: Jets 4 - Dead Wings 1

[Johnny HFBOARDS]

Post game is Jets post game, wings coverage rools

 

[Atoyot]

Helleys in top gear. Awesome to see

Helle has a new fan since his interview doesn't he?

 

[Johnny HFBOARDS]

They give Helly props bigtime

 

[Buffdog]

I feel like it'll be really difficult for this team to succeed until it acknowledges that Scheifele, Connor, and Pionk shouldn't be used in defensive situations or against opposing teams' top players. Just let them beat up on lower competition, they get exploited by more talented players.

I'll play Devils advocate. Their pure skill helps

There was a play today where Connor got the puck and used his soft hands to loft the puck out of the zone safely late in the game

The Barron goal the other night was after a brilliant play by schief who used his skill to clear the zone with the puck

Of course, playing without the puck is a huge part of defending. But so is maintaining possession if you manage to get it. Skill helps with that

 

[Avocado Coolranch]

Post game is Jets post game, wings coverage rools

I was watching the wings broadcast, very objective announcers. I actually really enjoyed it.

 

[White Out 902]

Helle has a new fan since his interview doesn't he?

Can't deny it.

 

[JetsFan815]

I'll take the 2 points but the 3rd sucked. Time to give Chisholm a shot over Schmidt

 

[Johnny HFBOARDS]

Helly needs wins in the USA markets to get his next V... SN and TSN doesn't do it

I was watching the wings broadcast, very objective announcers. I actually really enjoyed it.

They seem to care about what happening on both sides

 

[kanadalainen]

Scheifele made a lot of nice defensive plays tonight and was usually the first forward back.

Agree - I really liked his game.

His pass to 81 faked out everyone including 81. Reimers jock entered the stratosphere.

 

[Johnny HFBOARDS]

I'll take the 2 points but the 3rd sucked. Time to give Chisholm a shot over Schmidt

88 Linros is having a slower time, he doesn't have to be great but just a bit quicker

On the bad side on the Wings PBP team.... they're really fixated on the Bruins.... looking to far ahead

 

[None]

Can't deny it.

This one's pretty good too.

 

[Johnny HFBOARDS]

yeah that Helly after hours was one of the best I've seen in ages.... nice that it was one of out players

 

[surixon]

Thought we played a good first half of the game but really got it handed to us the second game. Helle stood tall and we capitalized on our chances tonight. I don't think he we played is a recipe for success. Good thing we haven't had too many games like this.

Pp needs a revamp, it will cost us games at some point with how ineffective it is. The second unit lacks any kind of purpose. Get the puck and shoot as quickly as possible. Both units need a complete reset.

Coaching also needs to figure out their deployment. Our top line is back to extending shifts and getting hemmed as a result. The coaching staff is routinely deploying the second line under 10 minutes per game at ES.

JoMo/DeMelo: JoMo had an off game. DeMelo was ok.

Pionk shouldn't be deployed on the PK or at the EN. Dillion was solid.

Thought Snerg had a nice game and Schmidt was better.

Top line had a couple good looks and a goal but where stuck I their end a lot as well. Iafallo hasn't been able to prop them defensively.

Second line. This line doesn't play enough period. They are still scoring to expectations but that is almost entirely on Perfetti producing at McDavid scoring rate levels at 5 on 5. Which means it's not sustainable. You want offense play them. They also happen to be the best metric and outscoring line so they don't give up much either.

Third line. They scored but I didn't think they played all that well outside that goal.

Fourth line was ok but didn't play much either.

They won't bleed chances if they don't play against top lines. They can pick apart lower competition with the best of them, but smarter players exploit them. Just play players to their strengths.

Who you talking about here. Not clear which players as I mentioned three lines lol.

 

[Puckatron 3000]

Wisconsin Apples with a strong game

Sip you feelin' ok?
Hats off for giving credit where credit is due!

 

[Aphid]

The team looks a lot better than the previous few years in the offensive zone. What a difference getting rid of one dead weight player has made. Not as many turnovers, fumbling the puck, puck battles lost, and overall slowness. So far Scheifele even looks a ton better not having to deal with that.

There's still Appleton but at least he scored. Still not a fan of him at all though.

 

[macmaroon]

Almost nodded off in the third, but stayed awake until the end. Nice to see some scoring from all the lines! Those goals by Ehlers and Neiderreiter should get the monkeys off of their backs and start their offence going... I give this game four El Nino's out of five...

The Prediction Contest is up and running for the game against Montreal on Saturday, so check it out and get your guesses in. A big thank you to @Aggie204 who will be making the GDT for the Canadiens game, we all are looking forward to seeing it. See you guys then...

 

[Puckatron 3000]

Scheifele made a lot of nice defensive plays tonight and was usually the first forward back.

Agree. The two biggest differences this year to me are Scheif being really engaged, and the x-Kings crew.

 

[JetsFan815]

88 Linros is having a slower time, he doesn't have to be great but just a bit quicker

On the bad side on the Wings PBP team.... they're really fixated on the Bruins.... looking to far ahead

He's just making mistakes all over, going offside, not getting the puck deep with it on its stick at the red line. Not saying he is out permanently but give him a break to see what you have in Chisholm.

 

[Atoyot]

Who you talking about here. Not clear which players as I mentioned three lines lol.

The one that you said was bleeding chances.

 

[surixon]

I'll play Devils advocate. Their pure skill helps

There was a play today where Connor got the puck and used his soft hands to loft the puck out of the zone safely late in the game

The Barron goal the other night was after a brilliant play by schief who used his skill to clear the zone with the puck

Of course, playing without the puck is a huge part of defending. But so is maintaining possession if you manage to get it. Skill helps with that

That is likely what the coaching staff thinks but at some point the grade A chances they give up will end up in the back of the net with more frequency. Both he and Conner are converting on their looks so far so they are staying ahead of it, but we saw exactly what happens last year when the pendulum swings the other way. They were great with Vilardi as they weren't stuck in their end all that much. Without him they have been really hemmed in.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Any complaints about Helle tonight?
Asking for a friend.

4-1

I did an awful lot of clenching for a 4-1 win.

 

[Atoyot]

I'll play Devils advocate. Their pure skill helps

There was a play today where Connor got the puck and used his soft hands to loft the puck out of the zone safely late in the game

The Barron goal the other night was after a brilliant play by schief who used his skill to clear the zone with the puck

Of course, playing without the puck is a huge part of defending. But so is maintaining possession if you manage to get it. Skill helps with that

I don't disagree, their skill is a great asset.

 

[bustamente]

Maybe Ehlers is upset that his buddy Laine is still out of the CBJ lineup

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Helle was good - we got caught puck watching a bit in the third but all around, a good road game

Yes - but Helle was a lot better than good.

 

[DRW204]

I think we have arniel for a while.

Bowness missed time last year. Now family emergency with his wife. I believe this is his final year on his deal (?) and he's the oldest coach in the nhl. I wouldn't be surprised if he's done after this year.

Maybe Ehlers is upset that his buddy Laine is still out of the CBJ lineup

He has a new BFF in perfetti