Player Discussion Jesse Puljujärvi pt 6

[stonec]

Puljujärvi is far from lazy and has always been known for his insane work ethic in the gym as well as his passion for hockey. What he didn't have a passion for, is school, which shows in his lack of English. Which obviously made it incredibly difficult for him to adjust to the NHL game.

But he should have known that speaking and understanding English would be an important part of being an NHL player. So if his goal was to excel in the NHL, then he should have left no tables turned, he had plenty of time to learn English by now.

 

[McDrai]

So unless you strive to be the most competitive at something then you don’t enjoy doing it? Weird take.

You would think a player who loves the game would want to play in the best league in the world while they have the opportunity to do so

 

[nabob]

You would think a player who loves the game would want to play in the best league in the world while they have the opportunity to do so

he has never said he doesn’t want to play in the NHL. He doesn’t want to play for the team that has made playing hockey for the last three years not much fun.

seems like he’s loving the game while playing at home

 

[McDrai]

he has never said he doesn’t want to play in the NHL. He doesn’t want to play for the team that has made playing hockey for the last three years not much fun.

seems like he’s loving the game while playing at home

So he took the easy way out because things got tough. Doesn’t strike me as someone who truly loves his craft and wants to put in the extra work to get better

 

[nabob]

So he took the easy way out because things got tough. Doesn’t strike me as someone who truly loves his craft and wants to put in the extra work to get better

he had options and chose one that wasn’t Edmonton. Doesn’t mean he loves the game any less means he wants to play in an environment that is enjoyable. It’s really pretty simple.

 

[McDrai]

he had options and chose one that wasn’t Edmonton. Doesn’t mean he loves the game any less means he wants to play in an environment that is enjoyable. It’s really pretty simple.

Agree to disagree I guess

 

[nabob]

Agree to disagree I guess

you don’t think he enjoys playing hockey more in Finland right now than he did in Edmonton last year? Or you don’t agree that he had options to play somewhere else besides Edmonton? Not sure what you disagree with...

 

[McDrai]

you don’t think he enjoys playing hockey more in Finland right now than he did in Edmonton last year? Or you don’t agree that he had options to play somewhere else besides Edmonton? Not sure what you disagree with...

Agree to disagree in the sense that if you love doing something such as hockey you will continue to love doing that regardless of if you’re winning or losing. It shouldn’t be circumstantial imo

 

[nabob]

Agree to disagree in the sense that if you love doing something such as hockey you will continue to love doing that regardless of if you’re winning or losing. It shouldn’t be circumstantial imo

Ok. That’s a really weird take. You’re saying that being in a toxic environment cannot and will never eventually zap the enjoyment out of something you love doing?

 

[McDrai]

Ok. That’s a really weird take. You’re saying that being in a toxic environment cannot and will never eventually zap the enjoyment out of something you love doing?

Was it truly a toxic environment though? I don’t see any of the other players refusing to play for the Oilers/asking for trades. They wanted to be part of the solution instead of bailing to a lesser league

 

[nabob]

Was it truly a toxic environment though? I don’t see any of the other players refusing to play for the Oilers/asking for trades. They wanted to be part of the solution instead of bailing to a lesser league

Each player interprets an environment differently. Eberle made statements about how Edmonton was a toxic environment, Hall said similar things. You act as if Puljujarvi is the first player ever to publicly say he doesn’t want to play in Edmonton. The truth is that most NHL players don’t want to, and the Oilers are near the top of all NMC and NTC lists for players. Hell Puljujarvi wasn’t the only Oiler player to request a trade last year/offseason.
The only difference is that Puljujarvi didn’t have a contract and had options.

 

[ThePhoenixx]

Each player interprets an environment differently. Eberle made statements about how Edmonton was a toxic environment, Hall said similar things. You act as if Puljujarvi is the first player ever to publicly say he doesn’t want to play in Edmonton. The truth is that most NHL players don’t want to, and the Oilers are near the top of all NMC and NTC lists for players. Hell Puljujarvi wasn’t the only Oiler player to request a trade last year/offseason.
The only difference is that Puljujarvi didn’t have a contract and had options.

This is one toxic post.

 

[I am the Liquor]

you don’t think he enjoys playing hockey more in Finland right now than he did in Edmonton last year? Or you don’t agree that he had options to play somewhere else besides Edmonton? Not sure what you disagree with...

He enjoys picking his nose with his tongue and eating pizza but sometimes things in life require hard work and commitment, things that can be decidedly unfun. This isn’t intramurals ffs, it’s the best league in the world and it’s big business.

 

[Soundwave]

Each player interprets an environment differently. Eberle made statements about how Edmonton was a toxic environment, Hall said similar things. You act as if Puljujarvi is the first player ever to publicly say he doesn’t want to play in Edmonton. The truth is that most NHL players don’t want to, and the Oilers are near the top of all NMC and NTC lists for players. Hell Puljujarvi wasn’t the only Oiler player to request a trade last year/offseason.
The only difference is that Puljujarvi didn’t have a contract and had options.

Hall was depressed for a year after being traded here.

The difference is Puljujarvi can't even carry Eberle's jock strap.

 

[Oilhawks]

Pretty much feel like how Super Kami Guru reacts to the mention of Yamcha in TFS whenever I hear Puljujarvi.

 

[OilerTitanFan]

It wasn't Staios.It was another 1st rounder, Alex Stoynov (sp). If memory serves, Naslund also displayed some talent and a brain.

Oh yeah stoynov. Haha.....what a steal. Steal of the century that altered the face of the canucks. Now imagine if we took hot garbage and JP turns into a Markus Naslund. We might beat the penguins to the dumbest trade in nhl history.

 

[OilerTitanFan]

That trade is just puzzling, considering Naslund had put up 52 points in 66 games with the Penguins during the season he was traded to the Canucks. It almost makes the Taylor Hall, Griffin Reinhart, Eberle, Caggiula, and Strome trades reasonable in comparison

Imagine if the penguins kept naslund. Crosby might have won a few more cups. Crosby, Malkin and Naslund on the pp. That would be something special. Sedins may not have become what they were without Naslund.

 

[Canovin]

He'll come back when he feels he's ready for the NHL. Whether with us or another team

 

[Barrsy]

Oh yeah stoynov. Haha.....what a steal. Steal of the century that altered the face of the canucks. Now imagine if we took hot garbage and JP turns into a Markus Naslund. We might beat the penguins to the dumbest trade in nhl history.

JP more likely to be Stoyanov than Naslund

 

[World Wanderer]

Was it truly a toxic environment though? I don’t see any of the other players refusing to play for the Oilers/asking for trades. They wanted to be part of the solution instead of bailing to a lesser league

This.

Also. Hockey is his career. We're not talking a beer league player here. It's his job to get better so that he can maximize his potential. He's a top pick winger. The transition to the NHL should have been straight forward and easy. It is for most wingers. If you are center, defenseman or a goaltender, sure, it's harder and requires more care and attention from the team, but it's literally the easiest position in hockey. There was an earlier post way back here about all the things the oilers did to help him transition to the NHL.

It's insane to think that this is simply the oilers fault or the environment.

with any job or career, there are difficult times, it doesn't mean you give up and decide .. I'll go somewhere else because things got "difficult".

 

[OilerTitanFan]

JP more likely to be Stoyanov than Naslund

Same can be said about Hughes and Kakko. Those two are quickly turning into hot garbage. Those teams rushed them in faster than we rushed Yakupov.

 

[McRpro]

Same can be said about Hughes and Kakko. Those two are quickly turning into hot garbage. Those teams rushed them in faster than we rushed Yakupov.

Those two have already shown way more than Poopoo ever did.

 

[gordonhught]

Same can be said about Hughes and Kakko. Those two are quickly turning into hot garbage. Those teams rushed them in faster than we rushed Yakupov.

Yakupov was perceived the best in a weak draft. In hindsight, the common thinking was take BPA and if you have too many wingers (they already had MPS, Hall, and Eberle) , you can trade one for a centre or a D. This was the wrong thinking.

Ryan Murray should have been the pick, but apparently the scouts got overruled. Murray would have been fine.

Galchenyuk was injured all season so there was no way the Oilers were going to pick him first.
Same with Morgan Rielly.

Hampus Lindholm came out of nowhere to be picked 6.

It was a weak draft year. If Yakupov would have stayed in junior the year after he was drafted, it would not have made a difference.

Should have traded the pick or picked Murray.

 

[tellermine]

Saw him today on national team.
Sadly even in nationsl jersey he loses interest to complete hockey to easily.
He just does compite enough.
Other that scoring he seems disinterested to many times.

 

[Perfect_Drug]

Yakupov was perceived the best in a weak draft. In hindsight, the common thinking was take BPA and if you have too many wingers (they already had MPS, Hall, and Eberle) , you can trade one for a centre or a D. This was the wrong thinking.

Ryan Murray should have been the pick, but apparently the scouts got overruled. Murray would have been fine.

Galchenyuk was injured all season so there was no way the Oilers were going to pick him first.
Same with Morgan Rielly.

Hampus Lindholm came out of nowhere to be picked 6.

It was a weak draft year. If Yakupov would have stayed in junior the year after he was drafted, it would not have made a difference.

Should have traded the pick or picked Murray.

You can google it, but the rumor was 1st overall (yak) for PK Subban. The season before winning the Norris.