Player Discussion Jesse Puljujärvi pt 6

[onetweasy]

Coinedence that his style of play looks like someone with a hip problem.......

Tinfoil hat: Blue Jackets were aware of hip problems through Finnish connection and avoided picking him.....

Hard to imagine a team having a 1st and 4th overall pick busting so closely together......Sigh.....

 

[Canovin]

Pulju is the NHL version of Markelle Fultz

 

[FlyingPhi]

Where do you see that potential?

I think after 139 NHL games it's difficult to say, with any certainty, what a player will become.

If you look at his NHLe from his draft year SM-Liiga season and from his AHL NHLe in 16-17, it's between 20 and 28. His NHL PPG is right in line with that over his career: 0.3 PPG last year, about 0.2 PPG this season, and 0.27 PPG over his NHL career.

Since he's not waiver-exempt next year, if he were to produce at that average over 82 games next season, he would be at about 22 points on the season and 10 goals. This year, we only have 5 players pacing to score 10 goals...

If we were able to get him onto a 2-year, one-way deal at $1.5M and he produces 22 points that would be about $68K per point. That would put him in company with players like Chris Tierny, Anthanasiou, Armia, Andrighetto, Petan, Martinook and Shore who have a similar cost per point number this season. These players are all a few years older, but they are all on non-entry level deals and are still RFAs after their current deals expire.

I think it is an assumption, yet a safe one, to assume the hip issue hampered his performance to some extent this season. With the right coach, an improved relationship with the org, and most importantly, a successful surgery and rehab process, I think Jessi at $1.5M deal would be a fair value with some significant upside potential and little risk in terms of the cap percentage he would take up on the team.

A trade would be unlikely to return a player with that output/production ratio, especially one that would be under control after their deal expires. A trade for a 2nd-4th round pick is unlikely to yield a player with that ratio either if you look at the average careers of players selected in those rounds. Letting him walk and using $1.5 million dollars on filling that spot may result in a player with that value ratio but may require more term, a larger investment, or on a player who would not be under control after the deal expires.

I'm certainly not advocating for a $3M per year deal with a 3+year term, but even with his average output his cost per production would be a reasonable value for this team with a good risk/reward outlook. I think the alternatives are unlikely to return better results and have less upside.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Maybe this injury is why he sucked at hockey

@RaabHart sounds like this kid doesn't have a deathly disease and getting a second opinion for a regular surgery is a real thing eh

 

[smokersarejokers]

Nevermind

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Gregor’s saying he’s hearing it’s a bone spur in the hip joint. That makes my skin crawl. Bone spurs hurt like a bitch.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

So apparently he's getting hip surgery, he must have been playing though this.

 

[oobga]

Crappy. Wonder how long he's been dealing with it. Hopefully fixing it can make a difference for him.

 

[Aerchon]

Probably a terrible thing but glad he has a nagging injury that has bothered him for awhile.

Not because I want him injured but at least it explains the season and gives some hope there's still a player there.

I noticed as the year went on he got worse and worse. Certainly coincides with a nagging injury.

Hope he has successful surgery. The Oilers bring in a coach that will actually use him in an true top 6 role. And we finally get to see what this kid can do next year.

 

[nabob]

Cant recall where I saw this....it was in regards to Jesse's lower body injury.

Maybe he is Butt Hurt?

Seems like it’s a little more serious

 

[nabob]

Crappy. Wonder how long he's been dealing with it. Hopefully fixing it can make a difference for him.

Guessing a while. Probably why Hitch demoted him even though he was somewhat productive in the top six.

 

[Yablo21]

Gregor’s saying he’s hearing it’s a bone spur in the hip joint. That makes my skin crawl. Bone spurs hurt like a *****.

Even better than labrum then

 

[Messrules11]

A hip problem at his age doesn’t bode well. The likelyhood of this player ever being something just took another hit

 

[Aceboogie]

HAHAHAHA



man, the Oilers organization is legitimately the worst run franchise likely ever in the history of any professional sport. Not even an exaggeration. Had say, the Tampa Lightning, failed to look into an issue with Vasilevskiy when he first came to Canada, that would be amongst that franchises biggest controversies. For the Oilers, its just another thing to add to the manure pile

 

[Aceboogie]

But in all seriousness Jesse. I hope you get better.

I am actually truely sorry you got drafted to a team who a) was going to hold you up in the NHL in a depth role while you struggled as a rookie b) neglect to get you any help with your injury even when you raised the issue and c) would demote you to the bottom 6 and ruin all your confidence as this injury likely continued to plague you

Had you known the utter shitshow you were about to walk into, I bet staying in Finland playing video games all day would have bene a much better option

 

[MettleMcOiler]

I hope this solves your issues Puljujarvj and you get better soon. I pray you'll be 100% healthy and prove the world wrong about you.

 

[oobga]

HAHAHAHA



man, the Oilers organization is legitimately the worst run franchise likely ever in the history of any professional sport. Not even an exaggeration. Had say, the Tampa Lightning, failed to look into an issue with Vasilevskiy when he first came to Canada, that would be amongst that franchises biggest controversies. For the Oilers, its just another thing to add to the manure pile

Damn...that really sucks. Sounds like the kid may have suffered in silence for the most part and just tried to push through, maybe just mentioning some pain in passing. If he was really making his pain known, it would be strange that it would not trigger the trainers to try to dig into what was wrong sooner.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

HAHAHAHA



man, the Oilers organization is legitimately the worst run franchise likely ever in the history of any professional sport. Not even an exaggeration. Had say, the Tampa Lightning, failed to look into an issue with Vasilevskiy when he first came to Canada, that would be amongst that franchises biggest controversies. For the Oilers, its just another thing to add to the manure pile

‘Anyone know Finnish? He keeps pointing to his hip and saying it hurts but it must mean something else in Finnish. No? Ah well f*** it. Rub a puck on it Jesse, that’s what we did in the 80’s. Well that and a butt load of coke. Can’t feel an injury when you’re up to your eyebrows in Coke and stripper tits!’

 

[joestevens29]

HAHAHAHA



man, the Oilers organization is legitimately the worst run franchise likely ever in the history of any professional sport. Not even an exaggeration. Had say, the Tampa Lightning, failed to look into an issue with Vasilevskiy when he first came to Canada, that would be amongst that franchises biggest controversies. For the Oilers, its just another thing to add to the manure pile

I don't see how this is their issue. Even after they gave their recommendation he still didn't want to go for the surgery.

 

[Oan]

Jesse: My legs feel funny
Oilers: What?
Jesse: Funny, strange
Oilers: (what the hell is this kid trying to say, wish he spoke english better...) it's ok Jesse, just play through it and it will get better

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I don't see how this is their issue. Even after they gave their recommendation he still didn't want to go for the surgery.

Or, could be that he felt he needed the surgery and the Oilers wanted him to play through it to try to up his trade value?

 

[joestevens29]

Or, could be that he felt he needed the surgery and the Oilers wanted him to play through it to try to up his trade value?

But it was our doctors that said get surgery and he went for a second opinion. Seems he's the one that didn't think it was too serious

 

[bzur]

This could also explain his ice time.. If he isn't feeling it or is having issues it would make sense to limit him.

 

[joestevens29]

This could also explain his ice time.. If he isn't feeling it or is having issues it would make sense to limit him.

They have said a lot that he was tired, so could be

 

[Spawn]

Let the excuses for the player fly