Recalled/Assigned: Jason Zucker (Jan 1: Re-called from Iowa)
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He's been one of my favorite players. He is very talented, but seems to not be playing with the same fire or motivation. I just don't think this organization is in the future for him sadly. I've met him too, extremely cool guy but you have to pay the cost to improve the team. Can't afford experiments.
Not at all, he probably needs a change of scenery is what I am thinking.
I can see Phoenix, LA and Anaheim being interested in him.
Dr Jan Itor
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Dr Jan Itor
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How Yeo has handled him has been laughable. Zucker deserves some credit too, but it's pretty comical at this point.
Has Zucker done anything at all to warrant more ice time? Granlund worked like a fiend on the third line. Nino is flying out there every night doing something. Coyle...I don't think he's the messiah some people make him out to be but he's at least careful with the puck. Fontaine and Haula are far more versatile than Zucker. So you give him a game or two and see if he does anything with the minutes. He didn't. Aside from the "yeah but this guy didn't do anything either" arguments you can't say Zucker has looked like an NHL player. As big a liability as Heatley can be, he's at least contributed some scoring. Zuck provides all the turnovers and none of the scoring so far. He'll "get it" and actually I think if Granny was in Zucker would look a lot better, but the situation being what it is it's not worth it. (never been a fan of Coyle at C)
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If they keep sending him up or down for a game or two every time and continue harp on his deficiencies and continue to ignore his strengths (PP, which he has seen virtually no time), it's pretty hard to expect him to settle in and find his game. Not to mention he's surrounded by other players who can't find any consistency in their game to begin with. At some point you'd think you'd at least try to play to a player's strengths and maximize possible output. Instead, Yeo continues to try the same thing over and over and expects different results. There's a definition for that in the dictionary somewhere I think.
Then of course you have Coyle who's been an utter disaster this season who they can't find any way to keep him out of the top 6 or PP. Both of which he has proven he has no business playing in the NHL to this point.
Then of course you have Coyle who's been an utter disaster this season who they can't find any way to keep him out of the top 6 or PP. Both of which he has proven he has no business playing in the NHL to this point.
His best chance at finding success right now without a quick thinking center like Granlund is as a floating hail-mary target IMO. He's kind of limited otherwise. Sort of like Nino without the size that earns Nino the ability to stay upright in close-quarters net battles. Again, if a more complementary partner were available I think he'd be staying for a while. Right now he needs a playmaker for success.
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And right now there's 3 vets on the top line and three 21 year olds composing the 2nd line (not be mention a veteran laden bottom six). There isn't a coach in the league that would throw a line-up out there like that.
As for the hailmary comment, that will never happen with Yeo given how he wants his team structured. We continue to see this team pack it in in the defensive zone and while it is generally a boon for Harding, it kills any chance for transition or something as simple as proper spacing. Which continues to effect this team more than any one aspect we're currently seeing.
And it gives the opposing defensemen considerable leeway to come in and pinch too without too much risk.
wasn't the PPG line made up of three players of comparable experience when they were the Ducks second line?
Dee Oh Cee
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Hard to take anything at face value when you're discussing someone's man crush. I was on the Zucker bandwagon in college and agreed when we said he was highly underrated especially compared to Jaden Schwartz but right now it looks like the experts were right. Schwartz is better.
17 straight regular season games without a point playing top 9 minutes. If he's this talented you'd find a way to pick up a couple of points.
Jarick
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Zucker has played 7 games this year in the NHL.
Also, it's hard to find consistency like this:
12/09/2013 Recalled from Iowa (AHL).
12/01/2013 Assigned to Iowa (AHL).
11/28/2013 Recalled from Iowa (AHL).
11/27/2013 Assigned to Iowa (AHL).
11/20/2013 Recalled from Iowa (AHL).
10/09/2013 Assigned to Iowa (AHL).
10/06/2013 Recalled from Iowa (AHL).
9/29/2013 Assigned to Iowa (AHL).
Last 10 regular season games last year he went without a point as well. Play better and you'll stay up.
Jarick
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Not really indicative of his recent performance. Look at Granlund last vs this year.
Zucker's game will never work in this current organizational playing style/coaching scheme. He looks like a fish out of water all the time. He's a speedy, open-ice skill player. That's opposite of what the system requires, which is bigger, slower, grind-the-boards play. One of them will have to go, and I bet it's Zucker first.
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I don't doubt it. I get the feeling that Yeo would prefer what Zucker could bring in a trade over what Zucker could become on the Wild.
I don't get the Zucker love around here. The guy hasn't done **** for a long time and really brings nothing. Speed is great but he apparently doesn't know how to use it and he is useless defensively. Coyle brings size and when on his game is twice the player Zucker is. Zucker is a faster Setoguchi...
AJ Thelen
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Jarick
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To clarify, that's not to say that Zucker has been better than last year, just that it's a different situation. Have we seen Zucker play with a good center yet?
12/11 - Coyle
11/30 - Coyle, Haula
11/29 - Brodziak, Haula
11/23 - Coyle, Konkopka
11/20 - Granlund
10/8 - Granlund
So he's played two games with Granlund six weeks apart. The rest of the time he's been with a struggling Coyle, Haula in his first NHL stint, and saw some spot time with Brodziak and Konopka.
Is that putting him in a position to succeed?
12/11 - Coyle
11/30 - Coyle, Haula
11/29 - Brodziak, Haula
11/23 - Coyle, Konkopka
11/20 - Granlund
10/8 - Granlund
So he's played two games with Granlund six weeks apart. The rest of the time he's been with a struggling Coyle, Haula in his first NHL stint, and saw some spot time with Brodziak and Konopka.
Is that putting him in a position to succeed?
AJ Thelen
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If he got the minutes Coyle is getting i'll bet you 100 bucks he would have more then Coyles lousy 8 points in 22 games with 1st line minutes and PP time..
