Player Discussion Jakob Silfverberg

[mighty Stanley Duck]

I get that he's playing against other teams' top lines, but less than 30 points is kind of unacceptable for a guy with his contract. He needs to do better next year

I think 35-ish (what he did last year) is the bare minimum for a guy making almost 4 million

Im fine with Silf, quality wise he is 3rd line player who is playing on 3rd line, so there is no problem. No matter how low his production is, i think its important to have somebody like him in top9. I think its to late to change teams identity, especially now since twins are already in 30's. Let play with pieces we got + adding some depth guys during the road.
D core is smth what's keeping us from legit shot on SC, and thats gonna kill us during this year run.

 

[Nordic*]

Haven't been able to watch the last 5-6 games due to my internet being down, but I guess he hasn't looked too good in this time, huh?

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

If he plays this postseason like he played last postseason, all will be forgiven

 

[mighty Stanley Duck]

For me he looks the same last 15-20 games...

 

[mytduxfan*]

Haven't been able to watch the last 5-6 games due to my internet being down, but I guess he hasn't looked too good in this time, huh?

Yeah, he looked amazing in 1 game a while ago now (I believe it was against CGY). However, since then, he's been terrible. Hopefully, he picks it up and has a strong playoff showing again.

 

[AngelDuck]

Im fine with Silf, quality wise he is 3rd line player who is playing on 3rd line, so there is no problem. No matter how low his production is, i think its important to have somebody like him in top9. I think its to late to change teams identity, especially now since twins are already in 30's. Let play with pieces we got + adding some depth guys during the road.
D core is smth what's keeping us from legit shot on SC, and thats gonna kill us during this year run.

Those excuses were All fine and dandy when he was making a million bucks a year. At almost 4 million a year on a budget team, the ducks need points out of this guy. Silfverberg scoring 25 points is like the equivalent to Fowler scoring 10 points. Fowler would get lynched on here if that happened. Hell, Fowler is over 30 points routinely as a defenseman and ppl still complain about his offense

I'm not saying trade him, I'm saying he has to do better on offense next year for his contract to be worth it. When you're on a budget you cannot afford 4 million dollar players producing 25 points, no matter how valuable they are defensively. Same thing goes for Kesler, but thankfully he's really turned it around offensively

 

[Nordic*]

A player can't just lose speed, strenght, stamina, vision and positioning like he did - without something being really wrong.


It's crazy how utterly useless Perron was in Pittsburgh, compared to amazing he has been here.

All in the head?

 

[mytduxfan*]

Those excuses were All fine and dandy when he was making a million bucks a year. At almost 4 million a year on a budget team, the ducks need points out of this guy. Silfverberg scoring 25 points is like the equivalent to Fowler scoring 10 points. Fowler would get lynched on here if that happened. Hell, Fowler is over 30 points routinely as a defenseman and ppl still complain about his offense

I'm not saying trade him, I'm saying he has to do better on offense next year for his contract to be worth it. When you're on a budget you cannot afford 4 million dollar players producing 25 points, no matter how valuable they are defensively. Same thing goes for Kesler, but thankfully he's really turned it around offensively

Silfverberg had 40pts last year. That's more than good enough for a 2nd line winger on 3.75M per, especially one as good defensively as Silfverberg is. Taking this year as the benchmark for what Silf is capable of producing offensively is really unfair on him. Everyone has struggled offensively this year and not everyone took a filthy hit to the head during preseason.

I hope he's better by the playoffs. We're going to need his ppg playoff numbers again this year.

 

[Paul4587]

Silfverberg had 40pts last year. That's more than good enough for a 2nd line winger on 3.75M per, especially one as good defensively as Silfverberg is. Taking this year as the benchmark for what Silf is capable of producing offensively is really unfair on him. Everyone has struggled offensively this year and not everyone took a filthy hit to the head during preseason.

I hope he's better by the playoffs. We're going to need his ppg playoff numbers again this year.

39 points not 40 and only 13 goals. Those are vey borderline for top 6 numbers. This year he has been worse outside of a 5 game stretch a while ago. We need more from him going forward.

 

[Ducks Nation*]

Yeah, he looked amazing in 1 game a while ago now (I believe it was against CGY). However, since then, he's been terrible. Hopefully, he picks it up and has a strong playoff showing again.

Yes he was unreal that game.

 

[Markus078]

39 points not 40 and only 13 goals. Those are vey borderline for top 6 numbers. This year he has been worse outside of a 5 game stretch a while ago. We need more from him going forward.

It's borderline for a regular top 6 player but Silfv is outstanding defensively and a shoot out specialist. I think his contract is fair when you consider all aspects of the game.

His and Keslers contract are the price you pay for a elite shutdown line these days.

 

[Ducks DVM]

39 points not 40 and only 13 goals. Those are vey borderline for top 6 numbers. This year he has been worse outside of a 5 game stretch a while ago. We need more from him going forward.

He was 38th in points for RW last year. That's pretty comfortably top 6 production.

 

[Paul4587]

He was 38th in points for RW last year. That's pretty comfortably top 6 production.

Yeah but how many guys were below him because they missed time and how many RWs are still listed as Cs by NHL.com? (I count about 5 guys in just the top 75 that are wrongly listed as Cs because they played there when they were younger).

In my eyes 39 points is pretty borderline in terms of top 6 production. With his defensive abilities I would say it's adequate enough. What's not adequate are his totals this season, he needs to step up his offensive game by quite a bit to be able to justify what he's getting paid.

 

[Nordic*]

Silfverberg plays exactly like Zibanejad.

They are both scared to engage physically and make someone mad at them. Way too nice and timid.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

He has not been "terrible" in a long time, months. He's not particularly dangerous or productive but he's not terrible, especially on the backside of the puck. I'd hate to see this board turn into an O6 or Canadian fan board where every player is either awesome or terrible with nothing in between.

 

[Getzmonster]

It's the slow starts that are killing him. He's at an 0.55 and 0.63 ppg pace in the second half of the last two seasons. While his season totals and offense in general has been a disappointment, in the latter half of the year you can't really argue that he isn't a legit 2nd line, defensive winger.

We just need to see him bring it all season, though the concussion early in the year makes it tough to make a definitive evaluation.

 

[Ducks DVM]

Yeah, he needs to be better to start. The line suffered with no left wing as well.

 

[Magnus the Duck]

Yeah, he needs to be better to start. The line suffered with no left wing as well.

I hope he can get to situations where his shot scores more. Even now with him playing better, it's still an extremly rare sighting.

 

[Norduck]

Silfvy was great today. Always shows up for the LA games.

 

[Markus078]

Silfvy was great today. Always shows up for the LA games.

Imho those games are played like playoffs. This is a good sign ;-)

 

[Nordic*]

I always felt he had an extra gear for the better teams.

Perhaps he doesn't (have time to) over-think stuff when the pace of the games are higher.

 

[mytduxfan*]

39 points not 40 and only 13 goals. Those are vey borderline for top 6 numbers. This year he has been worse outside of a 5 game stretch a while ago. We need more from him going forward.

Yeah, 39 points rounds up to 40. What's the problem?

I think 40 pts is fine for a 2nd line winger. You move into the 50-60pts mark and you're looking at a top line winger, which Silf just isn't. Agreed, it would be nice if was more like a 20-20 guy. It's surprising given his shot is so good. I agree with others, if that line had a better LW, it could produce more. You also have to factor in that Silf's line has a D first mentality, plays very conservative and is usually up against the oppositions best players. Gotta think that moving him away from such tough competition he'd be putting up better numbers, but that's just not his role.

 

[Paul4587]

Yeah, 39 points rounds up to 40. What's the problem?

It's just thrown around too much on the forums that so and so is a 40 goal or 40 point or whatever scorer when they've only come close to it and haven't actually hit it.

 

[mightyquack]

It's just thrown around too much on the forums that so and so is a 40 goal or 40 point or whatever scorer when they've only come close to it and haven't actually hit it.

Kessel is still the only 40 goal scorer in NHL history to never score 40 goals.

 

[Paul4587]

Kessel is still the only 40 goal scorer in NHL history to never score 40 goals.

In all the Kessel vs Perry arguments: "Give Kessel a centre as good as Getzlaf and he would be a 50 goal guy every year, he's way better offensively than Perry."

Look how that worked out