Discussion in 'St. Louis Blues' started by Blanick, Dec 5, 2017.
My 8 year old nephew assumed we were losing because Allen was in goal. Pretty much sums up most of this thread.
Brutally honest self assessment. I respect him for that.
If only he would never turn his back on a puck and could glue his sorry ass to the crease he could be alright. But, time and the again he proves he can't stay square to anything and lacks the necessary cocentration to be a goalie at any level. He's got the tools but lost the freaking tool box.
He needs fresh start. Somewhere that every bad goal doesn’t make everyone think “here we go again”.
What is goalies who give up goals from the Blue line???
I’ll take Potent Potables for 1200 Alex
@Spektre made a funny.
Allen has to go. We may have to wait until his trade value goes up.
Maybe it was a mistake to start him in a home game.
That was a classic Allen start. Everything goes decent until he lets in a backbreaking goal, then it all goes to ****.
The craziest thing is that all these backbreaker goals are things you'll rarely see, except Allen has made them a norm.
How is the hell does that turd sandwich have the 2nd most starts out of any goalie ever in Blues history
He ruins the game for me...can’t even enjoy it when he wins anymore
I mean $&&$&&$! We had a Stanley cup winning team last season that would have never even sniffed the playoffs if Binny didn’t get a start
That just speaks to the state of goalies in the Blues system over the years. Cujo was probably the last good goalie developed in the Blues system that had long term success with the team, and even he was rode out on a rail. Ben Bishop has success with other teams. Here is a list of shame, and check out the average time that goalies spend with the organization. This has been a position of instability for years. So many goalies making it one or two years. St. Louis Blues Goalies | Hockey-Reference.com
Oh so he’s 3rd all time right behind CUJO. I think that is a sign for the organization that it’s finally time to cut ties. They must do it before he passes Joseph
He's third in games played, and tied with CuJo for 2nd in all-time wins at 137. If they'd beaten Montreal, he'd be the 2nd winningest goalie in Blues history by himself. He's 14 wins behind Liut, and if he played well this year he could conceivably get there.
But I think he's already in first place for being the all-time Bluesiest goalie. I just don't understand how he can have some of the bad things happen that happen. If anyone ever got sniped by the opposing goalie launching a full-rink shot that beats him glove-side, in the history of hockey, it would be Allen that misses it.
If the Blues didn’t look to move Allen in the offseason I get it. He’s basically insurance and would hopefully get the team by if Binnington stumbled. I went into this season expecting Allen to benefit from playing the weaker teams but at the same time be the Allen we’re used to seeing. He’ll make the incredible save and five minutes later allows one that’s a head scratcher.
It is what it is but I would say there’s no chance he should still be on next year’s roster.
I think it will come down to unloaded him for a pick and retaining salary that would be commensurate with the cap relief from a buyout at the TDL or draft.
Just remember, we couldn't find anyone else better in the offseason.
A large part of it is because (1) the Blues cleared everything in front of him to make sure he was the #1 guy before he'd actually earned it, and (2) even when other guys were clearly playing better, coaches went out of their way to make sure he was still the #1 guy.
As noted elsewhere, it speaks to the (lack of) quality and longevity of Blues goaltending over the years.
I'm red-carding this, only because all that "this is so Blues" shit died permanently on June 12, 2019. If you want to say "this is so Allen" I'm all for it.
All that's really missing is
-- The opposition being on the PK and clearing the zone by throwing the puck down the ice, and it somehow goes past Allen and into the net
-- Him coming out to play a routine puck, f***ing it up epically, and the puck sliding back into the net. [Bonus points if he directs it in himself.]
And, it being Allen, there's amply reason to believe he'll do all of that on one play.
Jake Allen is to the Blues what Manny Legace was the to Red Wings - an AHL goaltender whose flashes of brilliance were bright enough to blind a GM into signing them as a starter and thus causing a championship caliber team to make repeated early playoff exits.
How is Jake Allen insurance if Jake Allen is the one stumbling?
We bought into the same snake oil after Detroit figured it out.
The Blues will do everything in their power to get Husso on the roster next season. They have to. Barring a huge collapse by him, this is the last season he needs to be in the AHL. Allen won't be back.
Still haven't heard @Brian39 take on Allen's performance and his early predictions about Allen being good back-up goaltender and contract being good where Allen really stands now.
It's this line of thinking that entrenched Allen in the Blues' crease for the better part of the past decade. The organization can't afford to anoint any goalie to the NHL roster until they're ready.
I feel like you didn’t read my whole post at all.
Well this would be a little different no? Husso would clearly be the backup. It’s a far cry from anointing him the starter.
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