Jack Hughes on pace to have worst rookie season by a 1st overall forward since Patrik Stefan in 1999

[Bankers Box]

Hughes has actually looked good so far this season.

No one on the Devils is currently playing well and it comes down to the awful system the coach was running there.

Lets at least wait to see how he looks under an NHL caliber coach, which might unfortunately have to wait until next season.

 

[GOilers88]

Stupid thread is stupid.

 

[Divine]

Laughed at the comparison on some national sporting channels that he was comparable to Connor McDavid.

Zach Parise level prospect at best in his absolute prime.

It was delusional fans that thought that. He wasn't even in the Matthews/Eichel tier of prospects, it was US media hyping him up.

 

[Kiekura]

It was delusional fans that thought that. He wasn't even in the Matthews/Eichel tier of prospects, it was US media hyping him up.

Yeah he was def over hyped.

 

[DannyGallivan]

Took me like two seconds, don't tell me something is not possible.

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Literally!

 

[Wierzbowski426]

This is a horrible thread.

 

[Connor McConnor]

Considering how good is brother is I think it's almost safe to say he'll figure it out but he definitely needs an Elias Pettersson like offseason in terms of weight room training. He shouldn't be in the NHL this year, but NJ thought they could compete for a playoff spot after the Subban trade/Hall impending UFA status etc. so they rushed him. Chill with the worst ever tho.

 

[EdmFlyersfan]

Jack Daigle or Alexandre Hughes era is upon us.

 

[izzy]

Imagine if his nightmare didn’t become a reality and if the Avs didn’t get screwed in the lottery again.

Hughes next to MacKinnon/Rantanen or Kadri/Landeskog.

Poor kid.

new jersey sucks but they have talent to play him with if they want to EA sports franchise mode their nhl lineup

 

[Roksta]

Everyone on the Devils is offensively challenged, he'll be fine


Steven Stamkos first 24 GP : 11 pts
Jack Eichel first 24 GP : 12 pts
Taylor Hall first 24 GP : 12 pts
Nathan MacKinnon first 24 GP : 15 pts
Nico Hischier first 24 GP : 18 pts

 

[SenzZen]

Seen Stamkos?

Through December 6th in his rookie year he had 3 goals and 8 assists for 11 points.

The words "rookie" and "pace" shouldn't be in the same sentence.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

So many players and careers written off on HF of late.....

To be fair I thought Hughes would have more points at this stage but I also thought the Devils would be good and they have been a dumpster fire. He's going to need some time and that's fine.

 

[BCNate]

He will be fine. Probably should have had another year to develop before making the jump to the NHL, but for some reason#1 picks are automatically pushed up right away. I've only seen 4 or 5 of his games, and you can see that the ability is there, give it some time.

 

[djpatm]

He was definitely rushed.
I still wouldn't panic until at least his sophomore season.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Hynes is gone he and the team will improve, probably

 

[Panthaz89]

Wait until the end of the season pace doesn't mean much at this point. Rookies will usually start to play better at some point.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Well Patrick Kane, Sidney Crosby, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, and Nico Hischier didn’t need that excuse, they were all about the same size and weight that Jack Hughes is at now and they dominated the NHL in their rookie years or at least doubled Jack Hughes’ production

The only one of those who was JH's size was P Kane. And he played wing where it is easier for a small player. He may be on a 35 pt pace but I'll bet he ends the season with more than that. Hughes is playing on a very weak team. There isn't much support for him there.

Have a little patience. Just a little - and wait 2-3 years before you start talking bust.

 

[Yog S'loth]

I mean, let's talk about Joe Thornton here...

 

[blankall]

It would be great to re-visit this at the end of the season where all things would be equal but we have a good enough sample size now to have an idea of how J Hughes is doing in comparison with the rest

I disagree. The sample size is the first 30 games for an undeveloped teenager coming straight from Juniors.

Why don't we look at the first 30 games of players who go straight from Juniors. Not that hard to do.

 

[ijuka]

I. D.o.n.t even bother reading your posts but If Hughes is having a bad season so us kakko. No two ways about it

I haven't said otherwise? How can it be so difficult to stay on topic, though...

You’d think you would just stay away from these kinds of topics seeing as both Hughes and Kakko are having very similar starts to their careers.

Interesting. I still don't get why you want to talk off-topic so badly? Create a thread for that if you want.

 

[Ninety7]

Over hyped. He will be a good player eventually, but he was definitely over hyped.

Could see this coming from a mile away. He’s borderline NHL ready.

give him a few years then reevaluate

 

[ijuka]

You’d think you would just stay away from these kinds of topics seeing as both Hughes and Kakko are having very similar starts to their careers.

Interesting, except I have opinions on every NHL player. I still don't get why you want to talk off-topic so badly? Create a thread for that if you want.

oh god thats his line barf

thats terrible give him someone good

He -was- with good players. He even got an opportunity on the first line.

There's a reason he no longer is.

Line Combinations - Frozen Tools

According to this his most frequent line-mates at Even strength are Hall and Palmieri...
Even so, players like Hughes usually need more time than most to adjust to the game style. I predict a much better second half to the season, finishing aroun 50~ points

These players usually adjust on the wing. That, by the way, is what I was saying from the beginning - that Hughes should be on the wing, not center.

Patrik Stefan...that's so funny that Atlanta traded for the 1st overall pick under the condition they had to take him and not one of the Sedins.

That's also why I say that "Canucks have never drafted 1st" is a false narrative. The 1st overall pick's owner had a clause that they weren't allowed to pick either Sedin. Canucks actually picked #1 and #2 that year, on practical terms.

 

[SwedishFire]

I mean, let's talk about Joe Thornton here...

yeah, I get it is a good thread to speculate of draft number ones. But he is very far from being mature fysically. I find the negative natural, and a bit stupid. Jack is not a finnished player at 18. Everybody is not as NHL ready as Sidney Crosby.

 

[not a troll]

I didn't pay attention to him much as a prospect but can someone enlighten me on why he didn't go to college either last year or this year?

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

Move him to wing.

Get his confidence up not having to defend against all of these bigger centremen in the NHL.