Player Discussion Jack Eichel Part 1

[sufferer]

anyone have any metrics on Eichel's FO% from pre-season? He looked MUCH improved.

Looks like he's using a visibly shorter stick. He had mentioned in an interview over the summer that he was hindered by using a larger one because NHL competition closed in on him quicker so he had less space to maneuver. I'm not sure when he did make the change, but it's just something I noticed that might contribute to his performance at the dot.

 

[Gabrielor]

Can we just name him the captain already only in buffalo they wait

I would like to get the C on the jersey already

I’ve been holding off just for that.

 

[Sabre the Win]

anyone have any metrics on Eichel's FO% from pre-season? He looked MUCH improved.

I only have data from a few games..

Against the Baby Pens he won 5 out of 8 and was 38.46% at the dot
Against Toronto he went 6 for 8 and was 42.86% at the dot

I don't have data for the Kraft Hockeyville game but Sobotka is the faceoff guy, he was over 50% in all games

EDIT: Correction, those are ONLY 5on5 numbers not all situations.

 

[vcv]

Is Jack's middle name "ed"? Because it's looked JackEd.

I have no regrets.

 

[Montag DP]

I only have data from a few games..

Against the Baby Pens he won 5 out of 8 and was 38.46% at the dot
Against Toronto he went 6 for 8 and was 42.86% at the dot

I don't have data for the Kraft Hockeyville game but Sobotka is the faceoff guy, he was over 50% in all games

I thought "% at the dot" is just another way of saying FO%. Can you explain what those percentages are referencing?

 

[sufferer]

I thought "% at the dot" is just another way of saying FO%. Can you explain what those percentages are referencing?

Looks like he meant 5/13 and 6/14.

 

[Sabre the Win]

I thought "% at the dot" is just another way of saying FO%. Can you explain what those percentages are referencing?

It is faceoff %, I don't know where they calculated those numbers because 5 out of 8 to me is 62.5% and 6 out of 8 is 75% but naturalstattrick has it at 38.46% and 42.86%

Ah I see what happened.

Sabres/Pens game, I took Individual on Ice Numbers 5on5 numbers which are different to All Situations numbers.
Pittsburgh Penguins @ Buffalo Sabres, 2018-09-18

So correction to the numbers previously posted, those were only 5on5 numbers not all situations.

 

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[Paxon]

anyone have any metrics on Eichel's FO% from pre-season? He looked MUCH improved.

Not an answer to your question, but anecdotally I recall the Sabres were strong as a team in the dot much of the preseason, not that it matters much given the various mix of players taking faceoffs.

 

[sba]

 

[Fezzy126]

10. Jack Eichel
Difficulty adjustment: +6.44%
Offence: 31.46/50 | Transition: 16.51/25 | Defence: 12.82/25
Total: 60.78/100

Playing in front of that Sabres defensive group, with poor quality wingers outside of Evander Kane, it’s been very tough for Eichel to appear as the star player he is. He needs to get more involved defensively when opponents have the puck, but he’s doing the right things everywhere else.

Eichel is a puck retrieval monster, keeps turnovers low in the defensive zone, exits the defensive zone with control more often than any other player, and is only bested by McDavid in overall plays that move the puck up the ice. Eichel’s incremental improvements show up each season, with last year finally showing him as a possession driver. The next area I expect to see him improve is turning his nearly league high scoring chance generation on the power play into actual point production. Eichel is doing his part; the Sabres have to do the rest.

This guy must be an idiot, people around here tell me Jack was barely the 3rd best center on his own team...

 

[Aladyyn]

Almost as if the core was never the problem. Eichel and ROR hold the 2 highest "difficulty" marks on the list...

 

[26CornerBlitz]

Apple Jack!

 

[Jim Bob]

But, goals win games.

He's not scoring goals, especially at 5 on 5.

Overpaid bust.

 

[Member 308457]

That faceoff win/pass to Skinner last night against the Habs was masterful. A brilliant play by both.

 

[Fezzy126]

You don't see praise from a Toronto reporter like this every day...

 

[Samsonite23]

Jack has brought his all around game to another level this season. I have been VERY impressed. Floater Jack seems to be a thing of the past.

 

[Gabrielor]

 

[TheMistyStranger]

Most underrated star

 

[Jim Bob]

NHL.com - Stats

There is the list.

He is slightly ahead of Ovy, Panarin, and Tavares as they are all listed at 0.97 PPG.

Eichel looks good at 19th.

The name that really has me shaking my head is that Brad <radio edit> Marchand is 5th at 1.14 PPG just a touch behind Crosby who is also at 1.14.

 

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[sufferer]

Moronic.

 

[TehDoak]

Moronic.

I mean, he's not wrong about it being a dangerous play.

I don't think its worthy of a suspension. I could see a fine though

 

[joshjull]

I mean, he's not wrong about it being a dangerous play.

I don't think its worthy of a suspension. I could see a fine though

I’d say it’s more of a fluky/accidental play that led to something dangerous. I could easily find several intentional cheap shots/ late hits in that game that were more dangerous. Which is why this “outrage” by Button is laughable