Is Zetterberg a Hall of Fame player?

[authentic]

So strange the Toews somehow shows up in every thread. No matter what the subject matter.

When you're a top 100 player of all time you tend to get talked about a lot.

 

[ScaredStreit]

Zetterberg will be one of the best not in, or one of the worst in...kind of like the Turgeons of the world.

 

[karnige]

I think he's one of those guys that just misses out. Very good but not great.

869 career points right now, and 318 goals.

Under a PPG player.

Several guys still waiting to get in with significantly better numbers.

wow I didn't know he was that low in scoring. yeah definitely not. the hall of very good which is nothing to be ashamed of

 

[The Toews Era*]

wow I didn't know he was that low in scoring. yeah definitely not. the hall of very good which is nothing to be ashamed of

Highest hart finish across his entire career has been 10th - not typical for hofers for sure

 

[rintinw]

Wrong. Z got absolutely snowed under with a pathetic 37% corsi. The only reason Toews had 4 points is pure luck - low on ice shootung percentage/howard playing well. Nothing to do with zetterberg. What zetterberg could control - possession - he failed miserably at.

In 2013 CF both Crosby (and Malkin) destroyed Bergeron (and Krejci) in corsi (both were somewhere between 65 to 70% in those matchups if I remember correctly). PIT got swept and I know nobody who would claim that Bergeron and Krejci failed at stopping them.

 

[psycat]

As somebody else said one of the best out of the hall or one of the worst in it(except pathetic inductions).

Fringer.

(If a player like Bergeron, who only won his individual hardware cause he is canadian, is anywhere close to the hall Zetts is a shoe in)

 

[Pavels Dog]

In 2013 CF both Crosby (and Malkin) destroyed Bergeron (and Krejci) in corsi (both were somewhere between 65 to 70% in those matchups if I remember correctly). PIT got swept and I know nobody who would claim that Bergeron and Krejci failed at stopping them.

That's because using corsi in that manner is insanely stupid and displays a lack of understanding both hockey and how stats like corsi should be used.

 

[vladdy16]

If anyone deserves special considerations for poor health and extreme leadership it would be Zetterberg.

 

[Acallabeth]

In 2013 CF both Crosby (and Malkin) destroyed Bergeron (and Krejci) in corsi (both were somewhere between 65 to 70% in those matchups if I remember correctly). PIT got swept and I know nobody who would claim that Bergeron and Krejci failed at stopping them.

Because you don't win games by missed shots and shots at the opponents' shins.

 

[trentmccleary]

This all depends on his cohort and how he looks against them. I'll try to take a closer look tonight at that aspect.

I would say he's outside the HHOF. I really think that his injuries and the short season curtailed what could have been another 3 very strong seasons that could have given him a big boost. He was better than Elias, but the injuries obscure that fact.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

I don't think he has done enough to be HOF worthy. I look at some others not in the HOF like Dave Andreychuk and if they are not in. There is no way Zetterberg deserves to be over him. Good player for many years, I will say this.

 

[sdf]

I seen here one interesting coment that he better datsyuk like puck posession player, i wonder if this true

 

[vladdy16]

The more I think about, the less I care about being measured about the question. Zetterberg should be in the Hall of Fame, without a doubt.

He was the best player in the world the year he led his team to a Stanley Cup, became a captain and has played through one of the most debilitating injuries in league history.

He's one of the greatest players of his era, that's what the hof is about isn't it? No need to split hairs or worry about precedents.

 

[86Habs]

I don't think he has done enough to be HOF worthy. I look at some others not in the HOF like Dave Andreychuk and if they are not in. There is no way Zetterberg deserves to be over him. Good player for many years, I will say this.

Andreychuk would be at the very bottom rung of HHOF players should he eventually be inducted (and I'm really hoping he won't). No post-season all-star berths, no awards (like, none), one relatively impactful post-season where he was carried by a peak Gilmour, one 50-goal season in an extremely high-scoring season when, for context, 14 players netted 50 (and, again, was carried by Gilmour). Played a long time and compiled some gaudy numbers in a high-scoring era. Largely forgettable player in the grand scheme of things.

Zetterberg may or may not get into the HHOF (he should in, IMO), but he certainly had a larger impact on his team's success than Andreychuk ever did. Much higher peak, significantly better playoff performer, and a Conn Smythe should get him strong consideration.

 

[DanZ]

Highest hart finish across his entire career has been 10th - not typical for hofers for sure

Media is biased towards Canadians. Zetterberg was a better player than Toews so he deserves to get in, and he will.

 

[MXD]

Zetterberg is the kind of player that you hope he gets in only after waiting for a while so more deserving candidates get in, because you actually hope there are more deserving players than him.

DOB is worth, well... not much, but it's safe to say he isn't even the first swedish player the HHOF will be looking to honor amongst the ones born in 1980. He won't even be the second, actually.

But I can't see anyone else amongst other 1980' borns (that is, between Brad Richards, Vincent Lecavalier and Ryan Miller) that have any case over Zetterberg.

 

[sr edler]

I look at some others not in the HOF like Dave Andreychuk and if they are not in. There is no way Zetterberg deserves to be over him.

Z was a playoff two-way beast in his prime. A complete beast. He was a better and a more important player for the Wings in the playoffs than Pavel Datsyuk in both 08 & 09 when the Wings made consecutive finals and he won a Conn Smythe.

Dave Andreychuk was a PP specialist compiler who played a lot of games in a high scoring era.

They're not in the same stratosphere.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Z was a playoff two-way beast in his prime. A complete beast. He was a better and a more important player for the Wings in the playoffs than Pavel Datsyuk in both 08 & 09 when the Wings made consecutive finals and he won a Conn Smythe.

Dave Andreychuk was a PP specialist compiler who played a lot of games in a high scoring era.

They're not in the same stratosphere.

I totally disagree. Andreychuk's body of work is certainly HOF worthy. He had 640 NHL goals(14th all time) (just for comparison Zetterberg is currently at 319), 1338 total points(29th all time) in his career. Is a Captain of a Cup winner, not that this is a requirement, but it is a nice feather in his cap.

Not in the same stratosphere? I think you are being somewhat harsh here. Really if Dino Ciccerelli was elected in. I would say Andreychuk deserves to be in also.

 

[sr edler]

I totally disagree. Andreychuk's body of work is certainly HOF worthy. He had 640 NHL goals(14th all time) (just for comparison Zetterberg is currently at 319), 1338 total points(29th all time) in his career. Is a Captain of a Cup winner, not that this is a requirement, but it is a nice feather in his cap.

Not in the same stratosphere? I think you are being somewhat harsh here. Really if Dino Ciccerelli was elected in. I would say Andreychuk deserves to be in also.

Henrik Zetterberg in his prime was a player you could build your offense around. Dave Andreychuk was a complimentary type scorer. I think he finished 10th in points one year when he was carried by beast mode Gilmour.

 

[86Habs]

I totally disagree. Andreychuk's body of work is certainly HOF worthy. He had 640 NHL goals(14th all time) (just for comparison Zetterberg is currently at 319), 1338 total points(29th all time) in his career. Is a Captain of a Cup winner, not that this is a requirement, but it is a nice feather in his cap.

Not in the same stratosphere? I think you are being somewhat harsh here. Really if Dino Ciccerelli was elected in. I would say Andreychuk deserves to be in also.

Have you considered the era in which Andreychuk played in? Played a long time, and compiled a lot of largely meaningless points in a high-scoring era. Had one good playoff with Toronto. No hardware, no post-season all-star teams (despite playing at the weakest position), no top 10 point finishes. One Cup as a 4th line passenger on TB.

And Ciccarelli was a ****** HHOF selection. But the HHOF shouldn't keep lowering its standards in a continuous race to the bottom.

 

[The Toews Era*]

Media is biased towards Canadians. Zetterberg was a better player than Toews so he deserves to get in, and he will.

Tinfoil conspiracies and blanket statements that amount to wishful thinking dont seem like hof criteria. Highest hart finish 10th. Absolutely brutal. No coming back from that low of a peak when his team success is unexceptional and his cumulatuve stats are weak.

 

[WingsFan95]

Playoff numbers put him in. I also think his regular season stats will be looked at differently because of the system he played. Detroit doesn't typically allow highlight scoring but doesn't mean he wasn't a top player at the height especially in the playoffs.

 

[Hennessy]

In 1960, yes. In 2020, no. Very good player, key member of two Cups, but never The Cog.

 

[wetcoast]

Zetterberg will be one of the best not in, or one of the worst in...kind of like the Turgeons of the world.

Except he was a better player than Turgeon at both of their peaks.

Turgeon is a little bit better version of Bobby Smith.

 

[JaegerDice]

He'll get in. Not first ballot, but he'll get in.

Beyond the Conn Smythe performance and just general perception as one of the top 10 players in the league for at least a few years, he also has a gold medal to his name. And people can say team achievements don't matter all they like, they do.

BTW, Toews will be in the hall-of-fame too. For the same reasons, plus some additional hardware (both NHL and international).

This isn't highlander, it's not like only one of them is allowed to be a Hall-of-Famer.