Is MacKinnon McDavid's Ovechkin?

[ThewThew]

It’s Matthews whether people like it or not. I know oilers fans are very sensitive about this topic because the only good thing they have in that sad organization is McDavid

 

[John Mandalorian]

Mcdavid doesnt have anyone on his tier unfortunatley and unless we get a generational player in the next couple years he will be alone. We are blessed to witness 2 generational players play in the same conference and win cups.

Also the title reads like some riddle lol

McDavid is the only player in the NHL who has the potential to go an entire season without missing a shot. He’s the only human who can outrun a cheetah on skates...and he can do it while eating a sandwich.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

It’s Matthews whether people like it or not. I know oilers fans are very sensitive about this topic because the only good thing they have in that sad organization is McDavid

It really isn't. It's Gaudreau.

But hey, the Leafs and Oilers have such a storied rivalry that I can't even remember all the amazing moments between the two teams right now.

 

[AvsFan29]

It’s Matthews whether people like it or not. I know oilers fans are very sensitive about this topic because the only good thing they have in that sad organization is McDavid

Why would Matthews be ahead of MacKinnon in a competition with McDavid?

 

[JasonRoseEh]

Why would Matthews be ahead of MacKinnon in a competition with McDavid?

He isn't, Leafs fans are delusional. Matthews has done nothing to be mentioned in the discussion with these 2 players. Of course he has the potential, but you need to stay on the ice to realize that.

 

[Brian McDavid]

Don't want to be rude, but your reading comprehension skills seem subpar.

Thinly veiled insult because someone called you out on your unpopular opinion?

 

[authentic]

It really isn't. It's Gaudreau.

But hey, the Leafs and Oilers have such a storied rivalry that I can't even remember all the amazing moments between the two teams right now.

Probably a joke, but if not Gaudreau is Marner level, offensively atleast. Matthews is in contention for next best player, but those two are not.

 

[Sky04]

It’s Matthews whether people like it or not. I know oilers fans are very sensitive about this topic because the only good thing they have in that sad organization is McDavid

He's doing such a good job getting beaten by miles in scoring every year by McDavid they're rivals about as much as Arizona is a to Toronto as contenders.

 

[AvsFan29]

He isn't, Leafs fans are delusional. Matthews has done nothing to be mentioned in the discussion with these 2 players. Of course he has the potential, but you need to stay on the ice to realize that.

Well yah. If you look at the stats from the beginning of last season, which is a large sample, Matthews isn't even close to the top 5, let alone #2.

McDavid 108GP 143PTS
Kucherov 109GP 142PTS
MacKinnon 102GP 140PTS
Matthews 76GP 86PTS

If you're thinking "yah he's missed a lot of games but his P/GP puts him in the top 5" it doesn't. He's 10th with 1.13P/GP.

MacKinnon is the highest with 1.37 and there are 5 players over 1.2P/GP.

In fact, Matthews is closer to 15th in P/GP than he is to the top 6.

He has also played the least amount of games, meaning everyone above him (except Marchand) has kept their pace up for 25-30 games longer than Matthews.

Also, in the 5 games before his injury, he had 0g2a. He has 9PTS in his last 8GP.

He's put up 7 points in the 3 games since returning, and leaf fans are acting like he's doing something special. In reality, the 2.33P/GP he's had since returning, has been done multiple times by multiple players this year, and players like Kucherov have kept up a 2.5P/GP for 10 games. Rantanen has 22pts over 12 games. Laine had 11G over 4 games.

There's nothing that points towards Matthews being a top 3 player in the league.

 

[tfong]

Only if Matthews is Laine's Sakic.

And Nylander is Matthew's Kurri

I was gonna suggest that Marner be Eichel's Savard, but that doesn't seem to fit.

What the hell am I even saying?

Marner is more like the In and Out of the Wendy's or the Adam Oates of the Iginla.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

I'd compare it more along the lines of Matthew's being Ovy(Pure goal scorer but outside of a couple years he went be nearly as productive as McDavid, like Ovechkin to Crosby)

And Mackinnon is more like Malkin. Except the difference being with Mack not on McDavids team Mack is going to get a lot more talent to work with then what Malkin had in Pittsburgh since he and Crosby rarely play together outside of pp time.



Mack and McDavid will be in a dog fight for scoring title for the next decade. Matthews probably throws his name into the ring a couple of times but won't be in there every year like the other two. However he will be a major threat for the Rocket every year alongside Laine.

 

[Future GOAT]

the Crosby/Ovechkin rivalry is a little more like the Laine/Matthews one.

I think it's more like the Eichel/Matthews rivalry.

 

[JasonRoseEh]

I think it's more like the Eichel/Matthews rivalry.

How was he not suspended for this hit?

 

[CupsOverCash]

Wait wouldn't Kucherov be his Ovechkin. Plays wing and is Russian. Scores a lot.

 

[Sensinitis]

Wait wouldn't Kucherov be his Ovechkin. Plays wing and is Russian. Scores a lot.

Point has 2x Kucherov’s goals. That’d be like Backstrom having 2x Ovechkin’s goals. It’s half a season, but with Ovie that’d never ever happen. Just sayin’.

 

[FalcorMulch]

He isn't, Leafs fans are delusional. Matthews has done nothing to be mentioned in the discussion with these 2 players. Of course he has the potential, but you need to stay on the ice to realize that.

I don't think either of them are in McDavid's level but what has MacKinnon done? Same amount of playoff series wins (0), same amount of hardware (Calder), lower points per game over his career, never hit 40 goals. 1 elite season five years into your career does not put you into the conversation with McDavid.

There is no Ovi to McDavid's Crosby. It's McDavid and no one else.

 

[grentthealien]

We'll see if Mack wins the Ross this year he will at least be a 1b option.

 

[Avelanche]

I don't think either of them are in McDavid's level but what has MacKinnon done? Same amount of playoff series wins (0), same amount of hardware (Calder), lower points per game over his career, never hit 40 goals. 1 elite season five years into your career does not put you into the conversation with McDavid.

There is no Ovi to McDavid's Crosby. It's McDavid and no one else.

you're right mackinnon is nowhere near mcdavid because he was bad in 2014.

 

[CupsOverCash]

Point has 2x Kucherov’s goals. That’d be like Backstrom having 2x Ovechkin’s goals. It’s half a season, but with Ovie that’d never ever happen. Just sayin’.

That's more of a credit to Point than you think though. Man is playing possessed. I see your *point though.

 

[Ippenator]

No, but Ovechkin is Barkov’s Tom Wilson. And everyone is Gary’s biaatch...

 

[FalcorMulch]

you're right mackinnon is nowhere near mcdavid because he was bad in 2014.

And what about 15-16 and 16-17? McDavid almost outscored him in his rookie season in 45 games.

 

[Sensinitis]

That's more of a credit to Point than you think though. Man is playing possessed. I see your *point though.

Oh yeah, irrespective of this, I like Point over Backstrom clean.

 

[CupsOverCash]

Oh yeah, irrespective of this, I like Point over Backstrom clean.

Backstrom is a very good player too. Point just seems to be taking over games on the regular this season.

 

[EXPECT THE LEAFS]

Auston GPG Matthews.

 

[CashMash]

In terms of a rivalry, Matthews/Laine is much more of a fertile soil if you want to stir things up.

I don't think McDavid has an equal of his own generation as of yet.