Is Darnell Nurse a #1D?

[BertMcDrai]

This year he was...will be interesting to see if he can continue his performance next season.

 

[kabidjan18]

On an average team yes. On a contender no.

 

[MessierII]

If he makes it.

Doughty, Weber, Makar, Chabot, Letang, Girard, Parayko, Pietrangelo, Theodore, Ekblad and Hamilton are all guys who could easily make the team over him.

For left shooting D he is the best right now. He will make it easily. Weber and Letang are too old. Girard is small and doesn’t play as many minutes.

 

[Voight]

For left shooting D he is the best right now. He will make it easily. Weber and Letang are too old. Girard is small and doesn’t play as many minutes.

Weber and Letang will most likely make the team. Weber 100%. Team Canada always relies on veterans especially ones who have played for them at the major tournaments. Both are still playing at a high level and bring loads of experience with them.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

wouldn't be on the Vancouver Canucks. an easy no for me.

Which defenseman on the canucks are we pretending is better than Nurse?

 

[The Moose is Loose]

If he makes it.

Doughty, Weber, Makar, Chabot, Letang, Girard, Parayko, Pietrangelo, Theodore, Ekblad and Hamilton are all guys who could easily make the team over him.

He’ll likely make it due to handedness, for some reason most of the Canadian elite dmen shoot right.

He’s ahead of Chabot, Girard, Theodore, Reilly currently. I agree Makar, Pietrangelo, Ekblad are probably ahead, with Hamilton Letang being at a similar level but Canada’s coach isn’t going to want 6 right handed guys for a dcore. I think it’s extremely likely he makes the team.

 

[Ainec]

Which defenseman on the canucks are we pretending is better than Nurse?

Nate Schmidt lol

 

[Ainec]

Nurse as your #1 d gets you swept by the Jets in a competitive 4 game series

Same jets that gets swept in a non competitive 4 game series by the Habs who will lose in the next round

 

[The Moose is Loose]

Nate Schmidt lol

Schmidt is better than Nurse? Nurse had more goals than Schmidt had points, and it’s not like Schmidt is some defensive stalwart, he along with the other Canucks dmen got caved in this year.

I’m extremely confident most people would take Nurse over Schmidt

 

[The Moose is Loose]

Nurse as your #1 d gets you swept by the Jets in a competitive 4 game series

Same jets that gets swept in a non competitive 4 game series by the Habs who will lose in the next round

You’re just proving your opinion is uneducated. Oilers had a lot of problems in the playoffs but Nurse wasn’t it. He played well in the Jets series despite of his partners weak defensive games. He played massive minutes in every game, he was probably the Oilers best player.

 

[Ainec]

He’ll likely make it due to handedness, for some reason most of the Canadian elite dmen shoot right.

He’s ahead of Chabot, Girard, Theodore, Reilly currently. I agree Makar, Pietrangelo, Ekblad are probably ahead, with Hamilton Letang being at a similar level but Canada’s coach isn’t going to want 6 right handed guys for a dcore. I think it’s extremely likely he makes the team.

If Canada was smart

Toews Makar
Theodore Pulock
Chychrun Spurgeon
Ekblad

But Doughty and Weber somehow makes it on

 

[Ainec]

You’re just proving your opinion is uneducated. Oilers had a lot of problems in the playoffs but Nurse wasn’t it. He played well in the Jets series despite of his partners weak defensive games. He played massive minutes in every game, he was probably the Oilers best player.

Which is a problem. Remaining teams #1 d

Hedman (nurse is probably better than an injured Hedman)
Theodore
Makar
Pulock/Pelech
Petry (injured)

 

[Ainec]

Schmidt is better than Nurse? Nurse had more goals than Schmidt had points, and it’s not like Schmidt is some defensive stalwart, he along with the other Canucks dmen got caved in this year.

I’m extremely confident most people would take Nurse over Schmidt

Most gms too. I'd take Nurse over Schmidt as well. Much more value and potential. Talking about a league that will pay Seth Jones at least 8.5m a year.

Still a valid post because I can see Schmidt excel on the Oilers in that role. Look at Barrie.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

If Canada was smart

Toews Makar
Theodore Pulock
Chychrun Spurgeon
Ekblad

But Doughty and Weber somehow makes it on

Again these opinions make 0 sense.
Pulock and Toews don’t have a chance to make team Canada. Spurgeon likely doesn’t even make the team due to the right handed depth in front of him.

 

[Ainec]

Again these opinions make 0 sense.
Pulock and Toews don’t have a chance to make team Canada. Spurgeon likely doesn’t even make the team due to the right handed depth in front of him.

So basically Nurse has 0 chance and doesn't belong on Team Canada then. Those are better dmen

 

[The Moose is Loose]

So basically Nurse has 0 chance and doesn't belong on Team Canada then. Those are better dmen

They aren’t.

But I’m not going to waste my time trying to convince you of that fact since you seem to have already formulated your opinion.

 

[coopooter]

Yes he is,
But probably not hf definition of #1D of which there are 5-10

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Nurse as your #1 d gets you swept by the Jets in a competitive 4 game series

Same jets that gets swept in a non competitive 4 game series by the Habs who will lose in the next round

I guess McDavid isn’t a 1C.

McDavid as your 1C gets you swept by the jets.

 

[Ainec]

I guess McDavid isn’t a 1C.

McDavid as your 1C gets you swept by the jets.

McDavid and Draisaitl gets you the opportunity to be swept by the Jets that got swept by the Habs

Rest of the team is Sabres level

 

[DonM]

I admit this season he substantially improved, but I'm also not willing to discount the effect McDavid/Draisaitl had on his scoring. I don't think it's a coincidence that Edmonton had the highest point getting defenceman in Barrie and the 2nd highest goal scoring defenceman in Nurse, neither of whom were particularly close to the top of league scoring any other year.

Not that I'm saying I have much evidence supporting my position. I just hope they pay Nurse like the top 10 D their fans seem to think he is.

 

[ESH]

Based on the way he played this year, I’d love to hear someone explain to me why Darnell Nurse isn’t a top 30 defenseman

Amongst defensemen: 2nd goals, 1st in 5v5 goals, 12th in points, 2nd in 5v5 points, 5th in +/-, 4th in minutes per game, and solid defensive metrics despite having weak 2-way partners (Barrie and Bear) being stapled to his hip. All while bringing the intangibles like physicality, shot blocking, and a willingness to drop the gloves.

Nurse is a top 30 defenseman, and a #1Dman for sure. People who claim otherwise obviously didn’t watch Nurse this year, he has grown significantly in terms of hockey IQ and situational awareness.

care to provide these metrics?

 

[La Bamba]

I admit this season he substantially improved, but I'm also not willing to discount the effect McDavid/Draisaitl had on his scoring. I don't think it's a coincidence that Edmonton had the highest point getting defenceman in Barrie and the 2nd highest goal scoring defenceman in Nurse, neither of whom were particularly close to the top of league scoring any other year.

Not that I'm saying I have much evidence supporting my position. I just hope they pay Nurse like the top 10 D their fans seem to think he is.

Nurse has played with McDrai his entire career.. He himself took a big step forward this year

His 5 on 5 production was very good but it's his defensive game that's mainly made him noticable

 

[Regal]

He’ll likely make it due to handedness, for some reason most of the Canadian elite dmen shoot right.

He’s ahead of Chabot, Girard, Theodore, Reilly currently. I agree Makar, Pietrangelo, Ekblad are probably ahead, with Hamilton Letang being at a similar level but Canada’s coach isn’t going to want 6 right handed guys for a dcore. I think it’s extremely likely he makes the team.

He wasn't better than Theodore this year and hasn't been in the past, and while he was better than Chabot and Rielly this year, they've been better the past couple. There's also Chychurn and Morrissey. Remember when Leaf fans thought Rielly was a team Canada lock after his 72 point season? He's in the mix but I really don't see how he has a leg up on the other top lefties. It'll depend highly on how they do next year.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

He wasn't better than Theodore this year and hasn't been in the past, and while he was better than Chabot and Rielly this year, they've been better the past couple. There's also Chychurn and Morrissey. Remember when Leaf fans thought Rielly was a team Canada lock after his 72 point season? He's in the mix but I really don't see how he has a leg up on the other top lefties. It'll depend highly on how they do next year.

I don’t disagree with your last sentence.

Morrissey is not even close, he’s always been overrated and Trouba leaving really exposed a lot of his faults. Just ask Jets fans how they feel about him right now.

 

[Voight]

He’ll likely make it due to handedness, for some reason most of the Canadian elite dmen shoot right.

He’s ahead of Chabot, Girard, Theodore, Reilly currently. I agree Makar, Pietrangelo, Ekblad are probably ahead, with Hamilton Letang being at a similar level but Canada’s coach isn’t going to want 6 right handed guys for a dcore. I think it’s extremely likely he makes the team.

Chabot and Theodore are certainly ahead of him. Hes probably on par with Girard and Rielly.

Anyways. He is far from a lock.