kingdok
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- Jun 8, 2004
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First, stop with the semantics. Everyone has their own definition of "elite" (and it's getting more and more obvious, especially with your Brodeur comparison there). the only thing you get from that is to get you upset and angry. Not healthy.Price career playing 40+ games:
-Good
-Bad
-Average
-Good
-Average
-Bad
-Good
-Good*
TOTAL: 4/8 seasons were good.. That's not elite, bro
Bernier career playing 40+ games:
-Good
-Good*
TOTAL: 2/2 seasons were good
SO, if we were to extrapolate THIS season (why would we do it for last season, it's done?), it'll have taken Price 8 YEARS in the NHL to string together 2 solid seasons back to back.. Bernier did it in his first 2 seasons.
So is Bernier elite at that point? Top 5?
BTW: I find it very funny that no one is answering what happens if Price has another bad season. As if you all know I'm right. Once you're elite, that's it, you're elite. Look at Brodeur, he's an elite goalie I'm sure everyone agrees and he's nowhere near the top 5 right now. Why is that? HE PROVED HIMSELF. Price hasn't proven ****.
Now, what you seem to not see about your bad Price-Bernier analogy, is that, at the age that Price was putting good to bad to average seasons, Bernier had problems even playing in the league. And guess what, Price had to learn his job through bad seasons. Not playing second fiddle, facing easier matchups like Bernier did.
Not Bernier's fault Quick was there and I agree. But is is what it is.
And also, what make Price being in the conversation of one of the best, is that he did play the games, and more (playoffs and olympics). And posted better numbers and brought better results then an extrapolated Bernier. So to answer your quesiton. Yes, if Bernier had the same numbers and the same number of games, and the same good playoffs, and the same olympic gold medal as Price, he'd be in the same tier as Price.
I'll just finish this by saying I'm a fan of Bernier and I believe the Leafs have a good one. But I don't see where bringing hypothetical scenarios makes you win your point.