Interesting Info: Part XXI (Jackets-related "tidbits" here)

[Viqsi]

Speaking of defensemen and the work they're doing here... The Athletic has a piece out today on defensive deployment situations:
Which NHL defencemen have (and haven’t) earned their coach’s trust? Analyzing matchup data from all 32 teams

For the Jackets...

With the departure of partner Seth Jones, the Columbus Blue Jackets have turned away from using Zach Werenski in a matchup role. That responsibility has instead fallen on the shoulders of Vladislav Gavrikov, who’s also had to deal with a rotating cast of partners — a very challenging role to say the least.

Andrew Peeke also stands out here. The big, young right-handed defenceman wasn’t even expected to crack Columbus’ roster as an everyday defenceman this season but has gained trust in a top-four role.

Who here had Gavin Bayreuther as our #2 guy for handling tough minutes? Anyone? Anyone at all?
Also, I knew Boqvist was being sheltered but holy hell.

 

[makethesave]

Speaking of defensemen and the work they're doing here... The Athletic has a piece out today on defensive deployment situations:
Which NHL defencemen have (and haven’t) earned their coach’s trust? Analyzing matchup data from all 32 teams

For the Jackets...

Who here had Gavin Bayreuther as our #2 guy for handling tough minutes? Anyone? Anyone at all?
Also, I knew Boqvist was being sheltered but holy hell.

Wow, that is interesting. I also did not suspect that in Bayreuther's 24 games. But not at all surprised by Boqvist's sheltered minutes...it's so apparent.

 

[thebus88]

Bayreuther and Harrington are just as good defensively as Gavrikov and Peeke.

So is Bean, and he also adds offense.

Bye

 

[Viqsi]

Bayreuther and Harrington are just as good defensively as Gavrikov and Peeke.

So is Bean, and he also adds offense.

Bye

...thanks for sharing?

 

[stevo61]

Gavrikov is outscoring Bean?

 

[thebus88]

Gavrikov is outscoring Bean?

Which means what exactly?? That he gets “lucky” secondary assists?? That “statistics” can’t be trusted to make an evaluation??

He has a hard/heavy shot that he DOES have an above average quality to get through traffic onto a goalie.

Other than that, his offensive game is BRUTAL and negatively affects the team while he’s on the ice.

He also seems to get credit defensively for his “reputation” the way Peeke gets credit for “potential”.

 

[MoeBartoli]

Ok. I see who the coaches trust. I also see the results.

 

[thebus88]

Ok. I see who the coaches trust. I also see the results.

We’re not losing all these games because of Beyreuther, Carlsson and Harrington.

 

[makethesave]

We’re not losing all these games because of Beyreuther, Carlsson and Harrington.

Thankfully you are not a coach or part of hockey ops. Why so angry ?

 

[majormajor]

Speaking of defensemen and the work they're doing here... The Athletic has a piece out today on defensive deployment situations:
Which NHL defencemen have (and haven’t) earned their coach’s trust? Analyzing matchup data from all 32 teams

For the Jackets...

Who here had Gavin Bayreuther as our #2 guy for handling tough minutes? Anyone? Anyone at all?
Also, I knew Boqvist was being sheltered but holy hell.

See I look at that and almost all of them are the same. The quality of competition difference between Gavrikov at one end and Bean at the other isn't that much. Everyone plays everyone. Only Boqvist derives a very big advantage. I side with the analysts that say zone starts has a bigger impact than qual-comp. Except for maybe playoffs, that is when coaches get a little wild with line matching.

 

[majormajor]

So....let's trade Peeke. What can CBJ expect to get in return ? Keep in mind this is really only his first full season with only 77 NHL games under his belt. A 6'3", 200 lb, RHD that's a two-way defenseman with snarl. What could we expect back in return ?

You're allowed to discuss things that our young players need to work on, it doesn't imply that you want them traded. That's a poor caricature.

 

[Viqsi]

See I look at that and almost all of them are the same. The quality of competition difference between Gavrikov at one end and Bean at the other isn't that much. Everyone plays everyone. Only Boqvist derives a very big advantage. I side with the analysts that say zone starts has a bigger impact than qual-comp. Except for maybe playoffs, that is when coaches get a little wild with line matching.

It would probably be best to look at the whole article (and thus what other teams look like) for that kind of context.

 

[makethesave]

You're allowed to discuss things that our young players need to work on, it doesn't imply that you want them traded. That's a poor caricature.

That "trade Peeke" was.....sarcasm. Prompted by an earlier post. Of course that would make obvious zero sense to trade him (although the return could be very good). In fact, we will likely have both Gavirkov and Peeke here long term.

 

[ColumbusTrill]

 

[EspenK]

FWIW Jackets lead lead in fewest OT losses at 1.

 

[Keduzin]

What’s the franchise record for worst +/- for one season ? Laine managed to end up with -28 last year but Bjorkstrand is allready at -27

 

[DJA]

What’s the franchise record for worst +/- for one season ? Laine managed to end up with -28 last year but Bjorkstrand is allready at -27

CBJ record for single season worst plus/minus was set by Tyler Wright in the 2001-02 season at -40

 

[GoJackets1]

Bayreuther and Harrington are just as good defensively as Gavrikov and Peeke.

So is Bean, and he also adds offense.

Bye

Late comment here, but Harrington has consistently been our worst defenseman for lord knows how long. He’s slow, constantly out of position, and just overall not a smart player.

The fact that you say he’s as good as Gavrikov defensively shows that your talent evaluation has serious issues. Guess it’s creeped over from your goalie evaluation as well.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Kinda the go to spot for CBJ clips on YouTube is stepping away after a few months off from posting. Sad news for the CBJ online community

 

[Cowumbus]

While I do not think the CBJ can make the playoffs, if they are, now would be the time to catch the Capitals. 10 points back with a game in hand. The Caps have a difficult next 5-10 games.

CBJ have NJ LA BOS TOR @NYI MIN VGK @OTT WSH.
Bolded are ‘must win’ and then if you can steal a few points from the other games you’re in a good spot.

 

[Viqsi]

So, this:



Dunno if he specifically has received any such threats, but Gavrikov is one of Milstein's clients.

(Also, a preemptive reminder that general politics discussion is still Not Okay)

 

[NotWendell]

So, this:



Dunno if he specifically has received any such threats, but Gavrikov is one of Milstein's clients.

(Also, a preemptive reminder that general politics discussion is still Not Okay)

How about specific politics discussion (specific to hockey, that is)?

 

[Viqsi]

How about specific politics discussion (specific to hockey, that is)?

Let's try to keep it Jackets-focused here, for the benefit of my and DSL's and Cdub's sanity. There's threads on the IIHF and NHL statements on those things in NHL general.

(Fair warning, tho - the NHL statement thread in particular is... a bit of a wild mess.)

 

[MoeBartoli]

Tonight Jack Johnson takes the ice in career game # 1,000. Congratulations to Jack.

 

[VT]

The teams against - 60 games:

Boston has 2 PO teams from 6.
Washington has 3 PO teams from 5, but one of them is Edmonton.
Columbus has 5 PO teams from 6.
Detroit has 5 PO teams from 6.
Islanders has 4PO teams (now) from 10.
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It`ll be very difficult.