How much credit do you give Anderson for the Sens current record

[Peptic Balcers]

I'd say he's playing exactly as you'd expect a 37 year old goalie would when they play 85% of the games and face 40 shots a night.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

He's been good for the most part. He's had a mix of really good games, decent games, and iffy games. One thing's for sure we have no backup and we'd miss him more than any other player if he went down.

 

[Multigrain]

I would go with 75 percent especially in the early games.

 

[topshelf15]

We will need an answer in nets for the long term, if we have any plans on going anywhere

 

[jbeck5]

Team is wildly inconsistent.

Anderson is wildly inconsistent.


Some games it looks like we play a complete game. Other times it looks like we can't make a proper pass.

Some games Anderson looks impossible to beat. Other times he lets in 3 goals on like 4 shots.

 

[jbeck5]

Think of it this way. Where would we be with average goaltending?

Who's the 15th best goalie? Sub him in for Anderson. Where would we be?

 

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

Think of it this way. Where would we be with average goaltending?

Who's the 15th best goalie? Sub him in for Anderson. Where would we be?

Minimum 10 games played that is David Rittich based on save pct. Other guys right around him are Hutton, Mcelhinney, Howard, Khudobin.

 

[jbeck5]

Minimum 10 games played that is David Rittich based on save pct. Other guys right around him are Hutton, Mcelhinney, Howard, Khudobin.

Interesting. I wonder who those guys are in the 13-14-15-16-17 range previous years

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Up and down. Tougher to gauge when you're getting shelled every night and you don't get much for games off.

He's been better than expected, but not game stealing most nights.

At least he isn't playing like he did last year, that was bad.

 

[solidprospect]

Think of it this way. Where would we be with average goaltending?

Who's the 15th best goalie? Sub him in for Anderson. Where would we be?

Any goalie subbed in would be getting an increase in shots and possibly an increase in dangerous shots.

Andersons strength has been the mid danger to low danger shots but alot of the other stats are out of his control. Shot amount, Save percentage would get better if we give up less chances somehow.

 

[stempniaksen]

We probably have less than 5 wins with a Condon/McKenna duo, so a lot.

Would be interesting to see Anderson vs our backup's numbers if we had someone competent (Dell, Saros, ect)

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

Probably like 50%.

 

[pown]

I think hes getting too much credit. Imagine if Andy had a 920%, we would be around 10th in the league quite easily with the goals we score

Hes not even top 30...if thats your definition of a goalie that is good enough then your out to lunch

We would be around 5 if he had Freddy Andersen/ Peka Rinnes numbers

Goalies hide alot of faults on a team

Andy has looked pretty terrible in 70% of the games hes played, cmon now. He lets in so many soft goals, we are lucky that we are
scoring in bunches, andy is defintely not our saving grace right now and he needs to play much better if we want a chance at the playoffs, I do admit hes slightly overplayed and we have no one to back him up, that falls on management

 

[Korpse]

I think hes getting too much credit. Imagine if Andy had a 920%, we would be around 10th in the league quite easily with the goals we score

Hes not even top 30...if thats your definition of a goalie that is good enough then your out to lunch

We would be around 5 if he had Freddy Andersen/ Peka Rinnes numbers

Goalies hide alot of faults on a team

Andy has looked pretty terrible in 70% of the games hes played, cmon now. He lets in so many soft goals, we are lucky that we are
scoring in bunches, andy is defintely not our saving grace right now and he needs to play much better if we want a chance at the playoffs, I do admit hes slightly overplayed and we have no one to back him up, that falls on management

There's not a goalie in the league that would have a .920 sv% playing behind this group. A .910sv% would be phenomenal considering how the team has played.

 

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

I think hes getting too much credit. Imagine if Andy had a 920%, we would be around 10th in the league quite easily with the goals we score

Hes not even top 30...if thats your definition of a goalie that is good enough then your out to lunch

We would be around 5 if he had Freddy Andersen/ Peka Rinnes numbers

Goalies hide alot of faults on a team

Andy has looked pretty terrible in 70% of the games hes played, cmon now. He lets in so many soft goals, we are lucky that we are
scoring in bunches, andy is defintely not our saving grace right now and he needs to play much better if we want a chance at the playoffs, I do admit hes slightly overplayed and we have no one to back him up, that falls on management

Well look at my post earlier on goalie points. Near the top of the league in grabbing us extra wins.

It’s probably no surprise I disagree with almost everything in your post and I feel like it’s way too simple to swap save percentages.

Feel free to take a look at the number of saves and the next closest goalies number of saves as well. Maybe if we swapped Anderson for a goalie who is en fuego like Andersen I would concur with a bump up in the standings but comeon, we could play this game all day if we don’t have the best goalie in the NHL.

You’re not alone on here in your thought process though. If we don’t have a top 5 goalie in the league on the roster then they’re automatically shit despite giving up so many shots against that has been a problem since the Maclean era.

 

[jbeck5]

Well look at my post earlier on goalie points. Near the top of the league in grabbing us extra wins.

It’s probably no surprise I disagree with almost everything in your post and I feel like it’s way too simple to swap save percentages.

Feel free to take a look at the number of saves and the next closest goalies number of saves as well. Maybe if we swapped Anderson for a goalie who is en fuego like Andersen I would concur with a bump up in the standings but comeon, we could play this game all day if we don’t have the best goalie in the NHL.

You’re not alone on here in your thought process though. If we don’t have a top 5 goalie in the league on the roster then they’re automatically **** despite giving up so many shots against that has been a problem since the Maclean era.

That's why I think comparing to your average starter is fair.

Some people are comparing to the top goalies which makes Anderson look bad.

Others are comparing to mckenna or condon, which makes Anderson look good.

It's somewhere in the middle. If we swap out our save % with league average save percentage, does much change?

My conclusion: Anderson has been pretty average and inconsistent looking really good some nights, and pretty bad some other nights.

 

[Korpse]

My conclusion: Anderson has been pretty average and inconsistent looking really good some nights, and pretty bad some other nights.

I'm not sure there's been many nights where Anderson has been bad. There's been plenty where the team has been bad defensively tough. A good number of games where Anderson wasn't able to keep the opposition off the scoresheet by himself.

 

[BondraTime]

I think hes getting too much credit. Imagine if Andy had a 920%, we would be around 10th in the league quite easily with the goals we score

Hes not even top 30...if thats your definition of a goalie that is good enough then your out to lunch

We would be around 5 if he had Freddy Andersen/ Peka Rinnes numbers

Goalies hide alot of faults on a team

Andy has looked pretty terrible in 70% of the games hes played, cmon now. He lets in so many soft goals, we are lucky that we are
scoring in bunches, andy is defintely not our saving grace right now and he needs to play much better if we want a chance at the playoffs, I do admit hes slightly overplayed and we have no one to back him up, that falls on management

No goalie in the league is going to have a .920 facing the shots and quality chances that we give up.

We have won a lot of games we shouldn't have been in, there aren't many we lose when we should win.

You think Rinne has the same numbers here? I certainly don't

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

There's not a goalie in the league that would have a .920 sv% playing behind this group. A .910sv% would be phenomenal considering how the team has played.

John Gibson says hi

 

[Korpse]

John Gibson says hi

That's fair enough. Gibson being the lone exception though.

 

[BondraTime]

That's fair enough. Gibson being the lone exception though.

With 105 less shots against.

Gibson has been the best goalie this year, but is on the Ducks. They aren't scoring 4 goals a game

 

[jbeck5]

I'm not sure there's been many nights where Anderson has been bad. There's been plenty where the team has been bad defensively tough. A good number of games where Anderson wasn't able to keep the opposition off the scoresheet by himself.

Meh I have. I've seen quite a few games where he's let in quite a few goals while not seeming to make a single big save. That would be a bad game for a 5 million dollar starting goalie in my opinion.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

Not sure how anyone could argue he's not the largest reason we aren't a complete tire fire. Anderson's a godsend this season.

 

[Korpse]

With 105 less shots against.

Gibson has been the best goalie this year, but is on the Ducks. They aren't scoring 4 goals a game

They have been rather porous defensively though in terms of both quality and quantity of chances. Again Gibson would be the exception not the rule. He has been outstanding.

 

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

That's fair enough. Gibson being the lone exception though.

That’s the thing. Someone points out one guy and cool yeah there are some goalies playing awesome this year. I don’t see people rattling off 5-12 goalies though.