How much credit do you give Anderson for the Sens current record

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

No goalie in the league is going to have a .920 facing the shots and quality chances that we give up.

We have won a lot of games we shouldn't have been in, there aren't many we lose when we should win.

You think Rinne has the same numbers here? I certainly don't

Everyone has chosen to ignore my goalie points stat for whatever reason. Anderson ranks #4. So he’s almost top of the league among goalies helping us to get make wins with an individual effort.

No Sens player among Forwards and D is among the top 10.

So if we want to answer the OPs question the best data we have says 4.6 more wins

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

With 105 less shots against.

Gibson has been the best goalie this year, but is on the Ducks. They aren't scoring 4 goals a game

What do you mean by bringing up the goals they score? Wouldn’t that be an indictment of Anderson?

 

[aragorn]

He's been good this yr for the most part & won a couple of games on his own but Ottawa can't afford to have a goalie that is good one yr & sucks the next, they need a lot more consistency than that. What will he be like next yr when it's potentially another bad yr in his historical cycle? I doubt there is a goalie in the system who can replace him for next season so I would guess they need to trade him next yr if even possible at his age. Hopefully, he is not re-signed. Finding a #1 goalie has to be a priority IMO.

 

[Korpse]

That’s the thing. Someone points out one guy and cool yeah there are some goalies playing awesome this year. I don’t see people rattling off 5-12 goalies though.

Oh for sure. It would be hilarious to see some of the names brought up as solutions get regular starts.

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

Oh for sure. It would be hilarious to see some of the names brought up as solutions get regular starts.

The problem is there’s no proving anything, if you think there would be better options or not. Anderson is a huge upgrade on our current options, but there are at least 15-20 goalies in the league who are better in my opinion

 

[Korpse]

Ottawa can't afford to have a goalie that is good one yr & sucks the next, they need a lot more consistency than that.

Fun exercise.

OTT 1819

Craig Anderson - Summary - Natural Stat Trick


Use the first link to view heat maps for each season, find Anderson's correlating 5on5 SV% using the second link.

 

[pown]

There's not a goalie in the league that would have a .920 sv% playing behind this group. A .910sv% would be phenomenal considering how the team has played.

I completely disagree.

Craig Anderson faces 4 more shots per game then Freddy Anderson and they have just as a worse defence then we do. Its not far fetched to think think if he had Freddys Anderson save %, we would be around #5-7 in the league. Even with the extra 4 shots per game. They are number 2 in the league

 

[Korpse]

I completely disagree.

Freddy Anderson faces 4 more shots per game then Craig Anderson and they have just as a worse defence then we do. Its not far fetched to think think if he had Freddys Anderson save %, we would be around #5-7 in the league. Even with the extra 4 shots per game. They are number 2 in the league

First of all your numbers are wrong. Secondly, its not all about quantity, quality matters, Ottawa is putrid in both. Lastly, Toronto for the most part outplays their opponent. Ottawa does not.

It's completely unreasonable to believe Ottawa could under any circumstance be #5-#7 based on the way they have played this season.

 

[BondraTime]

They have been rather porous defensively though in terms of both quality and quantity of chances. Again Gibson would be the exception not the rule. He has been outstanding.

Oh I know, was just to illustrate both guys have 11 wins, yet one team is scoring an absurd amount to somewhat overcome their complete lack of defense.

Ducks have been bad, but are nowhere near as bad as the Sens. Anderson gets hung out to dry like no goalie I have seen in the past decade.

 

[BondraTime]

I completely disagree.

Freddy Anderson faces 4 more shots per game then Craig Anderson and they have just as a worse defence then we do. Its not far fetched to think think if he had Freddys Anderson save %, we would be around #5-7 in the league. Even with the extra 4 shots per game. They are number 2 in the league

Not sure where you are getting that, because it is completely false, like not even close to being right.

Andersen - 770 shots in 23 games, was pulled once

Anderson - 894 shots in 25 games, including 4 where he was pulled or came in relief

Our Anderson has faced 124 more shots in 2 extra games...

Anderson has more saves then any other goalie has faced shots in the league.

 

[Tundraman]

Anderson has had some good games giving them a chance most nights but to be fair he's had a few turkeys in there too where late offense has made things appear closer than they were.

I don't blame Anderson for being out of the playoffs but if the right deal came along like say Philly I'd trade him in a heartbeat for a variety of reasons. One thing I wouldn't do is base any decisions on the fact that Colorado has their 1st pick. It would be a mistake if Dorion let that influence his decisions.

 

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

If you put any stock into the goalie point share stat, Anderson ranks #4 at at 4.6.

1. Andersen 6.1
2. Gibson 5.9
3. Lundqvist 4.8
4. Anderson 4.6


Calculating Point Shares | Hockey-Reference.com

Throwing it out here again for people’s thoughts. How about you Sir @Micklebot

 

[pown]

First of all your numbers are wrong. Secondly, its not all about quantity, quality matters, Ottawa is putrid in both. Lastly, Toronto for the most part outplays their opponent. Ottawa does not.

It's completely unreasonable to believe Ottawa could under any circumstance be #5-#7 based on the way they have played this season.

Not sure where you are getting that, because it is completely false, like not even close to being right.

Andersen - 770 shots in 23 games, was pulled once

Anderson - 894 shots in 25 games, including 4 where he was pulled or came in relief

Our Anderson has faced 124 more shots in 2 extra games...

Anderson has more saves then any other goalie has faced shots in the league.

So this site is wrong?

2018-19 NHL Hockey Stats and League Leaders - Scoring - National Hockey League - ESPN

 

[BondraTime]

So this site is wrong?

2018-19 NHL Hockey Stats and League Leaders - Scoring - National Hockey League - ESPN

That site says Ottawa allows 38 shots against per game compared to Toronto's 34...

Andersen has faced 104 less shots then Anderson

Anderson has 894 shots against in 1404 mins - 0.64 shots/min = 38.4/per60 mins.

Andersen has 770 shots against in 1372 mins - 0.56 shots/min = 33.6/per60 mins

That is a big difference. Very big difference

 

[pown]

That site says Ottawa allows 38 shots against per game compared to Toronto's 34...

Andersen has faced 104 less shots then Anderson

Yeah thats what ive been saying..2 members are telling me thats wrong?

" Craig Anderson faces 4 more shots per game then Freddy Andersen"

 

[BondraTime]

Yeah thats what ive been saying..2 members are telling me thats wrong?

"Freddy Anderson faces 4 more shots per game then Craig Anderson"

That is wrong...

It's very easy to see. Look at who has faced the most shots...

 

[pown]

That is wrong...

It's very easy to see. Look at who has faced the most shots...

I had Andersen switched with Anderson, that was kinda obvious lol they are kinda simmilar, so yeah point still stands. My whole point was that we would be around 5th-7th in the league easily if we had his save %. Im very much aware we allow more shots a game, i linked it...

 

[BondraTime]

I had Andersen switched with Anderson, that was kinda obvious lol they are kinda simmilar, so yeah point still stands.

It really doesn't.

Anderson is facing ~5 more shots per game than Andersen, of higher quality.

Would Andersen be better than Anderson? Of course, he's 8 years younger.

Would he be making a big difference to this team? I highly, highly doubt it.

Every single goalie would see a drop in their numbers, I don;t think there are any exceptions.

 

[pown]

It really doesn't.

Anderson is facing ~5 more shots per game than Andersen, of higher quality.

Would Andersen be better than Anderson? Of course, he's 8 years younger.

Would he be making a big difference to this team? I highly, highly doubt it.

Every single goalie would see a drop in their numbers, I don;t think there are any exceptions.

We all have our opinions

 

[BondraTime]

We all have our opinions

Sure.

If you're of the opinion that Andersen would have the same sv% playing here, then I really don't know what to say.

It's not just shots, it's the quality.

We give up the highest quality, and highest quantity in the league by a lot.

 

[pown]

Sure.

If you're of the opinion that Andersen would have the same sv% playing here, then I really don't know what to say.

It's not just shots, it's the quality.

We give up the highest quality, and highest quantity in the league by a lot.

My opinion this whole time is we would be 5th-7th if we had andersens save %...

 

[BonkTastic]

Ottawa can't afford to have a goalie that is good one yr & sucks the next, they need a lot more consistency than that.

Ottawa refuses to pay for a goalie that is consistently good over multiple years. Those goalies cost $6+mil. We've never paid anything close to that on a goalie.

We're getting what we're paying for. We can't afford to have a streaky goalie... but we can't AFFORD a better one, so this is what we're going to have to live with for the next couple of years.

 

[BonkTastic]

My opinion this whole time is we would be 5th-7th if we had andersens save %...

With this blueline and strategy?

Not on any earth, ever.

 

[Korpse]

My opinion this whole time is we would be 5th-7th if we had andersens save %...

But that's the thing, you dont get a sv% of that when the team is so awful defensively. A goalie can only cover up so much.

 

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

Ottawa refuses to pay for a goalie that is consistently good over multiple years. Those goalies cost $6+mil. We've never paid anything close to that on a goalie.

We're getting what we're paying for. We can't afford to have a streaky goalie... but we can't AFFORD a better one, so this is what we're going to have to live with for the next couple of years.

Anderson salary at pure UFA years is comparable to guys like Howard and Mike Smith. So there ya go.