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who's job is it on tampa's top 2 lines to "do the grunt work"?
I don't watch them, I don't know.
who's job is it on tampa's top 2 lines to "do the grunt work"?
You think you know hockey better than Babcock? That sure explains a lot...LOL.
Lets compare resumes.
Mike Babcock resume:
- Olympic Gold Vancouver (2010)
- Olympic Gold Sochi, Russia (2014).
- World Championships Gold (2004)
- World Junior Championships Gold (1997)
- Presidents Trophy 2005-06
- Presidents Trophy 2007-08
- Stanley Cup champion 2007-08
- Jack Adams finalist (twice)
Zeke's resume:
- EA Sports NHL 2008 to present.
- Dreams.
- Tim Hortons - Roll Up The Rim To Win - Free Coffee - 2017
- Lotto 6/49 - Free ticket winner 2018.
- Rocking a mullet.
I don't watch them, I don't know.
I like this new "I don't know anything about hockey but damn anyone who dares question Mike Babcock" line of argument for you. At least it's finally honest.
The lightning don't "balance" their lines by sticking plugs on the top lines. Their top-2 lines have all 6 of their best forwards.
That's debatable, especially on the left side...kind of like the Leafs.
eh Johnson and Palat have always been skilled scoring forwards for them, not grinders.
who's job is it on tampa's top 2 lines to "do the grunt work"?
http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?rep...ilter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=timeOnIcePerGame
Look at that TOI distribution, that's how you ****ing play a stacked team. You don't see any ****ing Hymans or Marleaus in that top-6 TOI, do you? Their 6 best forwards play the most ice-time, simple as ****.
Now let's look at ours:
http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?rep...ilter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=timeOnIcePerGame
Zach Hyman - 4th in TOI
Patrick Marleau - 5th in TOI
Kasperi Kapanen - 7th in TOI
William Nylander - 8th in TOI
Andreas Johnsson - 10th in TOI
HILARIOUS! The 2 worst forwards in the above group play the most ice-time. And Nylander - despite getting his game back and looking fantastic - STILL can't ****ing buy any ice-time despite being one of the team's best players both statistically and practically.
This whole idea of needing someone to do "grunt work" in the top-6 is completely stupid. Why can't we just do what Tampa, Washington, Pittsburgh, Winnipeg etc... do and just ****ing play our 6 best guys for the most time?
In fact, I would love to see Babcock attempt to coach Tampa. I guarantee the new group of Gud Pros in Killorn, Cirelli, Callahan, Pacquette would be leeching ice-time away from stars.
Marleau is the one that really stands out to me. To be a little more accurate though if you are talking lines, it would be EVTOI. Which for the Leafs, doesn't change much. Although Nylander's is low due to hold out. Last year he was top 3.
What's your line combos?
If Babas was the coach of the Lightning I could see Killorn, Miller and Callahan all seeing a 2 min+ increase in ice time.http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?rep...ilter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=timeOnIcePerGame
Look at that TOI distribution, that's how you ****ing play a stacked team. You don't see any ****ing Hymans or Marleaus in that top-6 TOI, do you? Their 6 best forwards play the most ice-time, simple as ****.
Now let's look at ours:
http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?rep...ilter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=timeOnIcePerGame
Zach Hyman - 4th in TOI
Patrick Marleau - 5th in TOI
Kasperi Kapanen - 7th in TOI
William Nylander - 8th in TOI
Andreas Johnsson - 10th in TOI
HILARIOUS! The 2 worst forwards in the above group play the most ice-time. And Nylander - despite getting his game back and looking fantastic - STILL can't ****ing buy any ice-time despite being one of the team's best players both statistically and practically.
This whole idea of needing someone to do "grunt work" in the top-6 is completely stupid. Why can't we just do what Tampa, Washington, Pittsburgh, Winnipeg etc... do and just ****ing play our 6 best guys for the most time?
In fact, I would love to see Babcock attempt to coach Tampa. I guarantee the new group of Gud Pros in Killorn, Cirelli, Callahan, Pacquette would be leeching ice-time away from stars.
http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?rep...ilter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=timeOnIcePerGame
Look at that TOI distribution, that's how you ****ing play a stacked team. You don't see any ****ing Hymans or Marleaus in that top-6 TOI, do you? Their 6 best forwards play the most ice-time, simple as ****.
Now let's look at ours:
http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?rep...ilter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=timeOnIcePerGame
Zach Hyman - 4th in TOI
Patrick Marleau - 5th in TOI
Kasperi Kapanen - 7th in TOI
William Nylander - 8th in TOI
Andreas Johnsson - 10th in TOI
HILARIOUS! The 2 worst forwards in the above group play the most ice-time. And Nylander - despite getting his game back and looking fantastic - STILL can't ****ing buy any ice-time despite being one of the team's best players both statistically and practically.
This whole idea of needing someone to do "grunt work" in the top-6 is completely stupid. Why can't we just do what Tampa, Washington, Pittsburgh, Winnipeg etc... do and just ****ing play our 6 best guys for the most time?
In fact, I would love to see Babcock attempt to coach Tampa. I guarantee the new group of Gud Pros in Killorn, Cirelli, Callahan, Pacquette would be leeching ice-time away from stars.
Stamkos specifically did not sign in Toronto because of Mikey..so there would be no Mikey in Tampa...
I doubt it. Nothing changed in the regular season and playoffs last year.I've always been a believer that Babcock likes to make the players work during the regular season. He never wants players to get an easy ride and start developing bad habits. If he doesn't fix the lines 10-15 games before playoffs then it's time to worry.
and what makes it so much more painful is....
a) when the going gets tough and we really need goals, babcock only increases the icetime of the grunts, and benches skill guys.
b) he won't ever even TRY another setup. not for a second.
Nylander-Matthews-Kapanen
Johnsson-Tavares-Marner
Don't even care what the 3rd and 4th lines are. I'm actually quite stunned that Nylander has never been played at LW despite him looking terrific on it prior to coming to the NHL in conjunction with our weaknesses there.
So the last time Babsuck won anything of consequence was 5 years ago with a stacked team. Before that 9 years ago. Before that 11 years ago.You think you know hockey better than Babcock? That sure explains a lot...LOL.
Lets compare resumes.
Mike Babcock resume:
- Olympic Gold Vancouver (2010)
- Olympic Gold Sochi, Russia (2014).
- World Championships Gold (2004)
- World Junior Championships Gold (1997)
- Presidents Trophy 2005-06
- Presidents Trophy 2007-08
- Stanley Cup champion 2007-08
- Jack Adams finalist (twice)
Zeke's resume:
- EA Sports NHL 2008 to present.
- Dreams.
- Tim Hortons - Roll Up The Rim To Win - Free Coffee - 2017
- Lotto 6/49 - Free ticket winner 2018.
- Rocking a mullet.
So do I and that's as rare as hen's teeth.I agree with Zeke here.