Pre-Game Talk: Heritage Classic - Ottawa at Vancouver Sunday, March 2 at BC Place @ 1:00 PM

[luongo321]

Lu sure as hell better be traded by the deadline if they are doing this to him. **** you gillis!

 

[Canucks LB]

 

[Tiranis]

@odognine2: Eddie Lack starting the Heritage classic. What a joke of a team.

Very professional.

 

[VeteranNetPresence]

are you kidding me?

this team is pathetic

 

[Tiranis]

I personally don't get the big deal, but that's just me. Lack has allowed 1 goal in the last 2 games and this team needs to go 15-5 to make the playoffs. Tortorella wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't go with the guy who's hot (as opposed to the guy who has been sitting around for 2 weeks). And I certainly don't know what this has to do with Gillis.

 

[opendoor]

You dont seem to understand what this means, This is torts basically saying that eddie lack is the #1 guy, and luongo is the back up.

This destroys any value luongo gained this season, this adds another layer of controversy

How would Luongo playing like a middling starter leading up to his 35th birthday have upped his trade value? If anything it confirmed that last year wasn't as much of an anomaly as people had hoped and that he's not the player he once was. A great December bookended by 2 months of .910 goaltending on either side of that has hardly proven that he's back.

People can point the finger at everyone else, but the reason Luongo lost his job last year, at the Olympics, and apparently now is because he's been the 2nd best goalie on his team. I think it's kind of a dumb decision because it creates needless drama, but if you're strictly starting whoever gives you a better chance to win (which I assume is Tortorella's aim) then Lack is the guy right now.

The team can't score to save their lives. Luongo is 1-17-5 when getting 1 or 2 goals support; Lack is 5-5-1 in that same situation. He's been far better at getting points out of a brutal offense than Luongo has.

 

[m9]

I personally don't get the big deal, but that's just me. Lack has allowed 1 goal in the last 2 games and this team needs to go 15-5 to make the playoffs. Tortorella wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't go with the guy who's hot (as opposed to the guy who has been sitting around for 2 weeks). And I certainly don't know what this has to do with Gillis.

Yup, no doubt.

Who gives the team the better chance tomorrow? Hard to argue against Lack.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

I personally don't get the big deal, but that's just me. Lack has allowed 1 goal in the last 2 games and this team needs to go 15-5 to make the playoffs. Tortorella wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't go with the guy who's hot (as opposed to the guy who has been sitting around for 2 weeks). And I certainly don't know what this has to do with Gillis.

Nothing to do with Lack. Lack is great... but you're basically throwing Luongo under the bus.

Can you remember an outdoor game where the team decided not to play their starting goalie?

Again he should be traded now if he's not playing tomorrow.... because it's going to be damn hard to get him to play again...

 

[Tiranis]

Nothing to do with Lack. Lack is great... but you're basically throwing Luongo under the bus.

Can you remember an outdoor game where the team decided not to play their starting goalie?

I don't know. Can you remember an outdoor game where the team in question needed to go 15-5 to make the playoffs and their starter hadn't played a game in 2 weeks?

Again he should be traded now if he's not playing tomorrow.... because it's going to be damn hard to get him to play again...

That's assuming there are teams interested. They're not going to retain salary on his deal just to ship him out a few months earlier and make him happy.

IMHO Luongo's just being a baby with those interview answers. He got the majority of the starts and hasn't really separated himself from Lack in any meaningful way. If he wants guarantees then he should play up to the level that earns him those guarantees.

 

[PG Canuck]

I can see how it can be a big deal, but it really shouldn't be. Lack has been playing lights out.

 

[Wetcoaster]

I created a new thread to discuss the new (continuing???) goalie controversy.

Goalie Controversy Version 2.0 - Luongo vs. Lack
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=80742439#post80742439

 

[topheavyhookjaw]

Could be a signal they'll use last compliance buyout on him.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

How would Luongo playing like a middling starter leading up to his 35th birthday have upped his trade value? If anything it confirmed that last year wasn't as much of an anomaly as people had hoped and that he's not the player he once was. A great December bookended by 2 months of .910 goaltending on either side of that has hardly proven that he's back.

People can point the finger at everyone else, but the reason Luongo lost his job last year, at the Olympics, and apparently now is because he's been the 2nd best goalie on his team. I think it's kind of a dumb decision because it creates needless drama, but if you're strictly starting whoever gives you a better chance to win (which I assume is Tortorella's aim) then Lack is the guy right now.

The team can't score to save their lives. Luongo is 1-17-5 when getting 1 or 2 goals support; Lack is 5-5-1 in that same situation. He's been far better at getting points out of a brutal offense than Luongo has.

... they better hope Lack doesn't faulter or they are completely screwed... (and I love Lack but this is completely needless... especially against the Senators...)

 

[Evolu7ion]

Yup, no doubt.

Who gives the team the better chance tomorrow? Hard to argue against Lack.

The issue is the only reason Luongo got back on board with this team was because Aquilinii and Gillis convinced him he would be the guy going forward, he was the guy they wanted to be their starter

To go back on that in the same season is just a disgrace, especially on such a marque game

 

[mrmyheadhurts]

Oh God, this team...

There had better be trade in the works for Luongo because it seems like he has once again lost his job to the backup. Not even saying it's the wrong decision from a hockey point of view but this has to be the last straw, there is no way in hell Luongo is back to start the next season.

 

[Finkle is Einhorn]

I personally don't get the big deal, but that's just me. Lack has allowed 1 goal in the last 2 games and this team needs to go 15-5 to make the playoffs. Tortorella wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't go with the guy who's hot (as opposed to the guy who has been sitting around for 2 weeks). And I certainly don't know what this has to do with Gillis.

Disagree. This team needs less drama, not more. Unless Gillis has a very clear vision as to how Luongo's going to be elsewhere in the coming days or months, all this has done is throw more gasoline on that fire. Maybe they win tomorrow, but I don't see how it benefits the organization beyond that.

 

[Slapshot_11]

I wonder if they are showcasing Lack on a big stage right before the deadline or is it possible they have a deal for Luongo?

 

[VeteranNetPresence]

Could be a signal they'll use last compliance buyout on him.

i think it signals something at least. there is no way they start another goalie controversy if they don't have plans of bringing him back next season

 

[SighReally]

If we buy out Luongo while having traded Schneider last season...

I don't even want to think about it

 

[m9]

The issue is the only reason Luongo got back on board with this team was because Aquilinii and Gillis convinced him he would be the guy going forward, he was the guy they wanted to be their starter

To go back on that in the same season is just a disgrace, especially on such a marque game

So what? He gets paid millions of dollars on a guaranteed contract to take the ups and downs along the way. If it's not worth it for him, then he can go sit at home in Florida. I'm a Luongo fan I just hate how some of his fans are such whiners.

 

[y2kcanucks]

I personally don't get the big deal, but that's just me. Lack has allowed 1 goal in the last 2 games and this team needs to go 15-5 to make the playoffs. Tortorella wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't go with the guy who's hot (as opposed to the guy who has been sitting around for 2 weeks). And I certainly don't know what this has to do with Gillis.

How about addressing the problems with the team? What you say would make sense if this style of coaching were applied to the lineup throughout. But at that point, the Sedins who are goalless in the past quarter of a season wouldn't be on the PP and wouldn't be getting top line minutes either.

 

[Tiranis]

How about addressing the problems with the team? What you say would make sense if this style of coaching were applied to the lineup throughout. But at that point, the Sedins who are goalless in the past quarter of a season wouldn't be on the PP and wouldn't be getting top line minutes either.

Taking the Sedins off the PP or benching them does absolutely nothing for the team. We don't have two young players to replace them. We do have Eddie Lack which is why he's playing.

Disagree. This team needs less drama, not more. Unless Gillis has a very clear vision as to how Luongo's going to be elsewhere in the coming days or months, all this has done is throw more gasoline on that fire. Maybe they win tomorrow, but I don't see how it benefits the organization beyond that.

The only reason there's drama is because Luongo is so unprofessional about this whole thing. Shut your mouth and do your job. And if you want out so god damn bad then give the team more options than just one team to trade you to.

 

[y2kcanucks]

Could be a signal they'll use last compliance buyout on him.

That would be a completely idiotic waste of our assets, but it wouldn't surprise me that Gillis would do something like this. He is singlehandedly driving this team into the ground.

 

[m9]

How about addressing the problems with the team? What you say would make sense if this style of coaching were applied to the lineup throughout. But at that point, the Sedins who are goalless in the past quarter of a season wouldn't be on the PP and wouldn't be getting top line minutes either.

Agree with this too. Luongo should be on the bench and the Sedins should be right next to him when the PP1 crew rolls out.

 

[y2kcanucks]

Taking the Sedins off the PP or benching them does absolutely nothing for the team. We don't have two young players to replace them. We do have Eddie Lack which is why he's playing.

Kesler, Higgins, Kassian, Schroeder, Booth, Sestito have more goals than the Sedins in the past 21 games. Give them the minutes, they're producing.