Confirmed with Link: Hagel & two 4ths ('22 & '24) traded to TB for Raddysh, Katchouk, & two 1sts ('23 & '24)

[Hattrick Kane]

Carter Verhaeghe wasn’t good enough to be bottom 6 in Tampa. How’s he doing now?
He was non tendered after winning the cup because he didn’t fit his bottom 6 role well enough.

Rolling the dice no doubt, but you never know when a player is going to figure it out.

Duclair and Hartman got booted off multiple teams before getting it together. It’s just the way it is sometimes.

 

[Danrs112]

Carter Verhaeghe wasn’t good enough to be bottom 6 in Tampa. How’s he doing now?
He was non tendered after winning the cup because he didn’t fit his bottom 6 role well enough.

Verhaeghe was always good enough in Tampa. He was a casualty of the cap. Just like JT Miller

 

[Hawkaholic]

Verhaeghe was always good enough in Tampa. He was a casualty of the cap. Just like JT Miller

He played 52 games and had 13pts for Tampa. Not sure why you are comparing him to Miller.

 

[Space umpire]

Thanks for the insight.

As for Hagel, he'll be an instant fan favourite. He's never once taken a shift off. He constantly motors at 110% and can out-hustle anyone in the league. Even if he's not scoring, he's a huge asset on both ends of the ice.

Genuinely hope he wins a Cup (or 3) with Tampa.

The fact these are protected 1st sucks and dampens enthusiasm for trade

Still good value for Hawks just think the protections shouldn't have been agreed to by new Davidson

I’ve thought about this a bit.
I waited from 1969 (born in 63) to 2010 for the Hawks to win a cup.
I can’t see the Lightning in total decline next year but taking their ages combined with the strength that division into account the pick could be 16 to 24 in a said to be “deep draft” rather than likely 28 to 32 in a weak draft.
The 2nd 1st rounder is anyones guess. In 2022 that is not a young roster. Actually the majority of their top talent are on the back end of their prime. By the spring of 2024 what do they look like?

 

[Space umpire]

I’d call that accurate

 

[hawksrule]

Toews' reaction is lame

Toews is just learning the nhl is a business.

 

[Space umpire]

Verhaeghe was always good enough in Tampa. He was a casualty of the cap. Just like JT Miller

You may not know but I actually live down here. Was a full STH (when I lived in Pinellas) and 1/4 yr (with 3 others) when I moved across the state.
HOWEVER for the humor of it.

Please explain to these Blackhawk fans how a guy making 1 million a year was a cap casualty.

 

[Space umpire]

Toews is just learning the nhl is a business.

If this trade gets Toews to tend to his future health and LTIRetire it’s an added bonus.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Toews' comments come off terrible when he's the single biggest reason this team cratered. Not his fault and I'm not blaming him, but Jesus dude read the f***ing room.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Toews' comments come off terrible when he's the single biggest reason this team cratered. Not his fault and I'm not blaming him, but Jesus dude read the f***ing room.

He's been very pouty for a while now. And then his reaction to the allegations... I haven't been impressed with him lately. Every time he opens his mouth, he says the wrong thing.

 

[TLEH]

Toews' comments come off terrible when he's the single biggest reason this team cratered. Not his fault and I'm not blaming him, but Jesus dude read the f***ing room.

You think since 2018 to now, he's probably the single biggest reason? Or just this season.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

You think since 2018 to now, he's probably the single biggest reason? Or just this season.

Outside of management being a total shit show, on the players side, yes. The last few years for sure. We're paying Toews and Johnson 16 million for Janmark/Soderberg production.

 

[TLEH]

Outside of management being a total shit show, on the players side, yes. The last few years for sure. We're paying Toews and Johnson 16 million for Janmark/Soderberg production.

1A. Stan Bowman
1B. Toews

So I pretty much agree with you.

 

[CallMeShaft]

Outside of management being a total shit show, on the players side, yes. The last few years for sure. We're paying Toews and Johnson 16 million for Janmark/Soderberg production.

How dare you besmirch Soderberg's production!

 

[deytookerjaabs]

Well, it took Strome about 7 years after being drafted to show a hair of tenacity so ya never know...

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

How dare you besmirch Soderberg's production!

I was Soda's biggest fan on this board. Loved the guy.

 

[Artorius Horus T]

I dont wanna bother to go back 13 pages and see what most thinking about TRaddysh but
Hawks get an amazing player, just couldn't get proper role from Tampa.

My dream come true, ive been the spoke person for Raddysh past 2 years, at least
and now .... tears.....happy tears

 

[Space umpire]

While I wish Toews would be more diplomatic. I’d bet money that his brains are scrambled and he just can’t control it.
I have no issue with his salary. I’m 59, I’ve now seen 3 cup winners. No question in my mind Toews gave everything of himself to make that happen.
So he plays next year (or not) then on the last home game we give him a new stereo and a rocking chair.
I’d fly up to be part of that standing O.

 

[CallMeShaft]

I was Soda's biggest fan on this board. Loved the guy.

I know, which is why I'm shocked you would besmirch his production.

What's next, you talking shit about Kopecky?

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

I know, which is why I'm shocked you would besmirch his production.

What's next, you talking shit about Kopecky?

Soda did his job very well for what they paid him. You can apologize whenever.

 

[Kevin Musto]

What a forgettable player. Glad he was traded for Rolston.

 

[BobbyJet]

Toews' comments come off terrible when he's the single biggest reason this team cratered. Not his fault and I'm not blaming him, but Jesus dude read the f***ing room.

"he's the single biggest reason this team cratered. Not his fault and I'm not blaming him," Make up your mind. It sounds like you are blaming him.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

"he's the single biggest reason this team cratered. Not his fault and I'm not blaming him," Make up your mind. It sounds like you are blaming him.

He is why. I don't blame him for having his body fall apart. They aren't mutually exclusive Bobby.

 

[Muffinalt]

Yeah god forbid Toews shares his honest opinion. He should be a self sacrificing robot for the fans obviously.

 

[Marotte Marauder]

Yeah god forbid Toews shares his honest opinion. He should be a self sacrificing robot for the fans obviously.

Umm, that's how Team Toews has always groomed him to be, Captain Serious and have all the intangibles. Now it comes off as sour grapes.