Post-Game Talk: Habs survive and beat Calgary to take a 6pt lead for 4th

[26Mats]

The only players I believe they can send to the TS now are players who were not on the roster at the TDL or were in the minors or waiver-exempt.

So basically, the only ones they can send to the TS are Primeau, Romanov, KK, Suzuki, and Evans (since they don't need waivers) and Byron, Lindgren, Ouellet, and Frolik, who were all on the TS at the 3PM deadline on TDL.

Everyone else cannot be sent to the TS because they were on the main roster at the deadline.

Why can't you waive someone like Kulak or Gus to put them on the taxi squad?

 

[morhilane]

The only players I believe they can send to the TS now are players who were not on the roster at the TDL or were in the minors or waiver-exempt.

So basically, the only ones they can send to the TS are Primeau, Romanov, KK, Suzuki, and Evans (since they don't need waivers) and Byron, Lindgren, Ouellet, and Frolik, who were all on the TS at the 3PM deadline on TDL.

Everyone else cannot be sent to the TS because they were on the main roster at the deadline.

KK is no more waiver exempt.

 

[salbutera]

The cap system is silly. How come a team cannot acquire cap space when players are legitimately hurt? Price, Drouin, Byron.

NHL has tried hard to create a loophole free socialist system in the name of league wide parity & minimizing ownership spending - they’ve done a great job accomplishing their goal to be honest.

 

[26Mats]

NHL has tried hard to create a loophole free socialist system in the name of league wide parity - they’ve done a great job accomplishing their goal to be honest.

The cap system makes the league competitive. Would you want a league like before the cap where NY, LA, Chicago, Dallas, Detroit, and Toronto all out dpend the other teams, get all the good players and are always winning?

In our capitalist system there are tons of caps on what employees can make at the firms/companies they work at. That's capitalism. The workers get paid a fixed amount, and the owners try to extract as much surplus profit out of their labor.

 

[Habs Halifax]

The cap system is silly. How come a team cannot acquire cap space when players are legitimately hurt? Price, Drouin, Byron.

This is how I see it...

It's all about the 50/50 revenue split and the rules on how to get there. LTIR is insurance claims where it's not counting against the cap cause insurance pays those bills. Day/day or weekly injuries is against the cap. Allowing to replace the minor injuries increases the cap and skews the 50/50 main revenue split too much. That's why these rules are in place

It is a very complicated but genius system in the end. Lots of little rules to get to the 50/50 revenue split.

 

[salbutera]

The csp system makes the league competitive. Would you want a league like before the cap where NY, LA, Chicago, Dallas, Detroit, and Toronto all out dpend the other teams, get all the good players and are always winning?

I believe in the free market & innovation dictating success, so yes I prefer non cap world

 

[Adam Michaels]

Why can't you waive someone like Kulak or Gus to put them on the taxi squad?

It's a rule they placed this year. I don't know why. But I heard Martin Leclerc on the radio this morning say it and he's like the second or third reporter I heard/read someone say it.

Arpon Basu is another one I saw speak about it:

 

[Habs Halifax]

Big Win last night! What I learned in these games against the Flames is that the Habs are weak at puck battles against grittier teams. I actually hope we face the Leafs cause the Jets have big fast skating forwards. Leafs have skill and have mixed in some grit this year but they are not tougher than the Habs.

 

[Adam Michaels]

KK is no more waiver exempt.

You're right.

 

[le_sean]

This is how I see it...

It's all about the 50/50 revenue split and the rules on how to get there. LTIR is insurance claims where it's not counting against the cap cause insurance pays those bills. Day/day or weekly injuries is against the cap. Allowing to replace the minor injuries increases the cap and skews the 50/50 main revenue split too much. That's why these rules are in place

I just hate that if a player gets hurt I hope that it’s either for one game, or long-term because of how the cap system is. That’s not right. You lose a player like Price for two weeks and you just have to live with that.

 

[26Mats]

It's a rule they placed this year. I don't know why. But I heard Martin Leclerc on the radio this morning say it and he's like the second or third reporter I heard/read someone say it.

Arpon Basu is another one I saw speak about it:

Thanks for posting.

So from this, why not send Byron instead of Romanov yesterday?

 

[Kriss E]

I love Anderson but he isnt't a good PP player, he shouldn't be on the PP1.

The point about Suzuki supports my point though, 9 points in 112 minutes when even McDavid has 28 in 210, just assume he gets 5 more instead of doubling, which is what stats would tell us and he gets in the top 50 of PP production.

The unit should be Caufield-KK-Suzuki-Petry-Perry. The 2nd unit can be whatever they want, give their candy to Toffoli, Tatar, Gally, Anderson, but these guys are ES players.

The coach has to stop treating his talented players like they are not, because they are. For the first time in like 6 years, the team has very very talented players. They may be young but the PP is the easiest place to express your skills.

McDavid plays around 23min per game, that's not something Suzuki can handle. He looks dead already on most nights.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I just hate that if a player gets hurt I hope that it’s either for one game, or long-term because of how the cap system is. That’s not right. You lose a player like Price for two weeks and you just have to live with that.

Injuries suck yes. We are certainly not getting value from our $10.5M of cap hit on Price (healthy or not). Hopefully he's is the Price we know come playoffs. Rest is good for him and Allen is a solid goalie.

Not much we can do about it.

 

[Schwang]

Damn, a "he looks small out there" comment away from stupid Caulfield comments bingo.

I didn't think he looked that small to be honest. Plus, I don't see how this guy expects him to be fighting against a much bigger player at his current size. I saw Caulfield get pinned behind the net once. That's probably what he's talking about. Caulfield will most likely be a perimeter guy given his shot and size. I'm fine with that if he scores. He's just going to need someone to get him the puck.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Thanks for posting.

So from this, why not send Byron instead of Romanov yesterday?

I'm sure there are reasons for it cause they put Byron on waivers already. It's really something we don't have 100% of the info on. Most of us know of all the little rules but there is so much deeper stuff that we don't

 

[26Mats]

I believe in the free market & innovation dictating success, so yes I prefer non cap world

Well we don't live in a free market society. There are caps everywhere on what workers can earn in the companies they work for.

The Europen soccer leagues where a few rich teams win every year are boring and largely predictable. Boo to that.

It takes more innovation to win in the more highly competitive, equal opportunity, level playing field cap league than a non competitive league with a few monopolists.

 

[26Mats]

I'm sure there are reasons for it cause they put Byron on waivers already. It's really something we don't have 100% of the info on. Most of us know of all the little rules but there is so much deeper stuff that we don't

I agree that there are reasons. I'm asking because I'm curious what they are.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I agree that there are reasons. I'm asking because I'm curious what they are.

I'm not so sure we will find it out. Media reports can help but they also don't know all the details and the team doesn't have to tell them everything. We might get 80% of the information and some will pretend they know 100%

What we can see is trends and it appears they are trying to protect their last call up. It's all about that from what I see.

 

[FrankMTL]

I thought Caufield played well all things considered. It's tough to come in and play your first game against a big team that traps and smothers the play like the Flames. The games against them are always so sloppy and almost feels like your playing in quicksand.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

I just hate that if a player gets hurt I hope that it’s either for one game, or long-term because of how the cap system is. That’s not right. You lose a player like Price for two weeks and you just have to live with that.

It's actually a good thing that it's this way or teams in cap hell would abuse the system with short term injuries to make cap savings.

 

[26Mats]

I'm not so sure we will find it out. Media reports can help but they also don't know all the details and the team doesn't have to tell them everything. We might get 80% of the information and some will pretend they know 100%

What we can see is trends and it appears they are trying to protect their last call up. It's all about that from what I see.

Good news, I just saw this: we didn't use our last call up on Caufield, so we can still call up Romanov. (I had seen reports we wouldn't be able to call up Romanov until the playoffs).

 

[swimmer77]

MAB was a much bigger threat offensively than Gus unless I am missing something. Don't understand the acquisition at all. Weber can still score if the execution is there.

I'll be the first to admit I don't understand call ups, emergency call ups, waivers and such except on the surface. Just can't believe Bergevin has handcuffed a coach like this if in fact he has.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I didn't think he looked that small to be honest. Plus, I don't see how this guy expects him to be fighting against a much bigger player at his current size. I saw Caulfield get pinned behind the net once. That's probably what he's talking about. Caulfield will most likely be a perimeter guy given his shot and size. I'm fine with that if he scores. He's just going to need someone to get him the puck.

That's the bingo card piece.. is expecting a 5'7" sniper to go throw a hit and get dirty on the boards is stupid, and not only is it stupid it takes him away from his best asset.

He's going to be dangerous off the rush and the cycle by getting open and using his shot. Using him in the trenches just diminishes his value as a player.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Good news, I just saw this: we didn't use our last call up on Caufield, so we can still call up Romanov. (I had seen reports we wouldn't be able to call up Romanov until the playoffs).

Yes, I heard that last night. It had to be Romanov going to Taxi squad if we wanted to insert Caufield. It's still complicated for me to understand the whole thing and we would have to had tracked all the moves all year long to understand I would imagine.

 

[Scintillating10]

Indeed but that was one round, what happened next round already ?

We beat Toronto be good enough. From where we are now