Prospect Info: Grand Rapids Griffins 2019-2020 Part Deux

[Fil Larkmanthanasiou]

"Helm with hands." Turned out pretty well for us last time.

I don't really agree with the Boyle comparison for Ras at all outside of both being big and playing center.I think it looks like they were trying to stick with center comparisons, but Rasmussen is going to be pretty productive,imo, because of the role he'll fill on the power play. I'll stick with my Bobby Holik comp, or someone else mentioned Anders Lee. Agree with Jason Arnott probably being a "best case" scenario, though.

I see him as a less physical Boyle type ES and SH while being a very good net front presence on the PP.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

I see him as a less physical Boyle type ES and SH while being a very good net front presence on the PP.

Meh... Keep in mind Ras already has more points in the NHL than Boyle did by like age 25.

I think he is a much better offensive player than Boyle was/is.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Not a good penalty by Ras.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

This team needs to use their size and funnel things to the slot, too often they funnel things to the corner. I know it is a mix of that, but you can lean on them everywhere on the ice and not just on the walls. When they are playing more down the middle they are far more effective, they fall in love with the corners too much for my liking.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Svech scores a goal in his fourth straight, feed by Hirose.

 

[lhsgolf19]

Kid is rolling, I'd love to see him get a look soon

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Kid is rolling, I'd love to see him get a look soon

If he keeps doing what he is doing I expect he will soon.

He is really good at that shot in the slot, I wonder if he could get a try as the bumper guy on the PP.

 

[Christien]

Brutal game by McIlrath

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Yikes McIlrath...

Cholo your read there though is to be the last man home, not sure it would have mattered, but he made the wrong read nonetheless.

 

[newfy]

Kid is rolling, I'd love to see him get a look soon

He played poorly for a large part of the season but its hard to get a read on guys in Grand Rapods I think. With him being hot like this and how he has always played well when hes been called up he should get a chance

 

[lakai17]

A lot of Svechnikov hype here lately as there should be but keep in mind he has 2 different line mates lately in both Hirose and Rasmussen who all benefit off each other. They all deserve credit when on their game.

 

[Hen Kolland]

A lot of Svechnikov hype here lately as there should be but keep in mind he has 2 different line mates lately in both Hirose and Rasmussen who all benefit off each other. They all deserve credit when on their game.

They do deserve credit when it applies, but they aren’t playing at the same level as Svechnikov right now. Svechnikov started playing well when Hirose was in Detroit, and has 5 goals and 7 points in his past 4 games. Hirose has 2 points in his last 2. Rasmussen has 3 points in his last 4.

And to be fair, this stretch is more important for Svechnikov than probably anybody in GR. He’s running out of runway, and we’d all like to see him get it right and find success in the NHL.

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

I thought Svech was great last night. Even if he had not scored I would have called it a great game for him. He was so much more on top of the play and actually dictating as opposed to simply chasing the puck around like he has much of the year.

It is amazing what a little success and confidence will do for players coming through some adversity.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

A lot of Svechnikov hype here lately as there should be but keep in mind he has 2 different line mates lately in both Hirose and Rasmussen who all benefit off each other. They all deserve credit when on their game.

It is really ideal for Hirose, Ras and Svech create a ton of space for him to really play his game. Plus the weaker defenses allow him to exploit more in my opinion. I am not sure he can be an impact NHL guy, but Hirose can be an AHL star kind of player in my opinion. Like Locke, Krug, Hadar and the like.

 

[raymond23]

Only halfway through the game so far but Ras is the best player on the ice.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Only halfway through the game so far but Ras is the best player on the ice.

He has been excellent when he has been in the lineup. I have a lot of restored faith in Rasmussen watching him this year. I was patient anyway last year, but I think we just need him to stay healthy for a longer stretch and one more summer of getting stronger should make a big difference. Would love for him to hang around Mantha, I know he is one of the guys that doesn't summer in Detroit, but Ras could really use his model in terms of how Mantha just got stronger and stronger each year.

 

[Konnan511]

The only other Red Wings' prspsect I have seen referred to as Helm with hands was Larkin.

No no no. Many many players were, Red Wings and other players alike, dubbed 'Helm with hands'. "Helm with hands" goes all the way back to 2013.

 

[Fil Larkmanthanasiou]

No no no. Many many players were, Red Wings and other players alike, dubbed 'Helm with hands'. "Helm with hands" goes all the way back to 2013.

Name some other Red Wings' prospects that were referred to as 'Helm with hands'

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Name some other Red Wings' prospects that were referred to as 'Helm with hands'

I remember hearing that about Quine when we took him.

A lot of times it is a guy with plus speed, I think some tried it with AA though that was wrong, similar with it being attached to Emmerton after Helm had broke through onto the championship teams and he was still in Grand Rapids.

Helm with hands is a really intriguing player as I said when people were freaking out about it when it was attached to Larkin. I don't think Veleno is like Helm really. Honestly I think he is a poormans Larkin or Horvat, Mike Richards from the previous era type. I like Veleno, I don't really understand the notion he is passing Larkin. Byfield sure, I would be stunned if Joe can supplant Larkin in terms of importance in this organization.

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

I don't think people remember Larkin's initial projection. Pundits in some places were saying he could be an excellent third line center. Helm with hands made sense at that point, because he was playing more of an energy game at the NTDP. It's only when he got to Michigan that he broke out as a legit offensive star was carried to a great season by future superstar Zach Hyman.

 

[lakai17]

Only halfway through the game so far but Ras is the best player on the ice.

Yes Ras has been a great addition lately from injury is what I was getting at.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Looks like Svech is sitting out tonight...

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Dansk deserves a ton of credit for this not being a 6-1 kind of game for the Griffins right now.

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

Thought Ras just stood stationary in front of the net

 

[NotLeddy]

Griffins are in a playoff spot after tonight's win, passing Chicago for 3rd in the Central