GM Chuck Fletcher (Part 3)

[kelmitchell]

Also why the **** do people still follow Eklund?!

Every time someone says "I know it's Eklund, but..." a kitty dies somewhere in the world.

Fine by me, im allergic to them lol jk but i am allergic

 

[kelmitchell]

Serious question, does anyone else feel like Holmgren might try to have to much input with this new gm?

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Serious question, does anyone else feel like Holmgren might try to have to much input with this new gm?

I don't know if he is, or if he would, but I am scared that he might. On the other hand, he is a good talent evaluator of pro players, and whoever has been doing that recently is complete garbage. So I guess I wouldn't mind if he shared his thoughts on a player's abilities, and then went and had a Werther's Original with Boyd Gordon and shut the **** up.

 

[baudib1]

I realize this is petty rah-rah B.S. but if Stone is really content to just stay in Ottawa with that joke of a franchise, I want him a lot less.

 

[Rebels57]

Seriously.


Flyers have been after stone for some time. I’d think they are trying to get him now. That’s a mistake.

Hes one of the best two-way forwards in the NHL. He is basically Marian Hossa. Producing like a 1st liner with elite IQ and D.

 

[rajaampat]

Serious question, does anyone else feel like Holmgren might try to have to much input with this new gm?

No, otherwise something stupid might have happened already. It was discussed elsewhere about the players that were moved already are smallish/perimeter/shown their ceiling-and in the case of Dale Weisse (sp) to be a fly on the wall..I saw him dog it too many games.
Even the Leier-Bailey trade shows his preference for larger/heavier players as he built the Wild. Its not a move towards goons, mostly all the Western conference teams are heavy teams, large, solid on skates, harder to move off the puck....I think he is taking a very measured and patient within realism about the team... New coach will likely dictate a style though you can expect a wider mix than BPA smallish skill guys coming in.

 

[kelmitchell]

I realize this is petty rah-rah B.S. but if Stone is really content to just stay in Ottawa with that joke of a franchise, I want him a lot less.

Not making excuse but maybe he really loves living in that area? That could be a big factor imo

 

[TheKingPin]

Hes one of the best two-way forwards in the NHL. He is basically Marian Hossa. Producing like a 1st liner with elite IQ and D.

Yea so he’s going to cost a lot. There are enough UFA options that we can afford to wait and see who makes it there.

 

[TheKingPin]

Unless he doesn’t cost a lot. I’d love to have him and Panarin.

 

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

I'm on the fence with Stone. There's going to be a lot of money thrown his way and with the Flyers already having big contracts on the books plus contracts that will be needed for Provorov, Sanheim, Konecny, Patrick, etc.....They just got out of salary cap hell and the last thing I want to see is them go back into it. As well, I'm not sure that as a player, Stone is going to age well. The skating part is what worries me. The smarts might be there as he gets older, but I'm not sure the skating will.

 

[wuf]

I want Amac out of the system, which is why we should buy him out.

 

[tucson83]

knowing the flyers fo they are going to be in on bob, panarin, stone, maybe ek if he makes it in fa. it would in awesome if they somehow get all of them, that will be a pipe dream but when it comes to the flyers fo, anything is possible and fletch got both zach and sutter.

 

[baudib1]

I think Stone is an amazing player, and I'll be very happy if we get him, but I strongly prefer Panarin, who would be the most skilled Flyers winger since Mark Recchi. Panarin's probably better than Recchi tbh.

 

[dingbathero]

So by Fletch saying that.

He hope's all players are going to be playing better.
Also brings up trade value for certain players.
Trades those players whose value goes up.
For a better return than before him saying that.

I like him saying what he said when he said it.

 

[Muddy Wilbury]

Hes one of the best two-way forwards in the NHL. He is basically Marian Hossa. Producing like a 1st liner with elite IQ and D.

Agreed. We can't afford him though.

 

[Rebels57]

Agreed. We can't afford him though.

We can if he makes it to free agency. We have a ton of cap space.

 

[Muddy Wilbury]

We can if he makes it to free agency. We have a ton of cap space.

I'm a Flyers fan living in Ottawa so aquiring Stone would be flat out amazing.

 

[Muddy Wilbury]

If Duchene signs at $10 million per year, he's going to have a tax rate of 53.2%. The taxes in Ontario and Canada are ridiculous.

Melnyk won't and can't pay Duchene or anyone else 10M/year. The guy is broke and hated by 99% of the hockey fans in this city.

 

[Curufinwe]

Fletch killed War on Ice when he was the Wild GM.

WILD PAIR ANALYTICS WITH COACHES' INSTINCTS TO GET MOST OUT OF PLAYERS | Iowa Wild

Mandrycky and Andrew Thomas, the Wild’s leading data researcher, are the ones responsible for coming up with “a lot of stuff.”

Chuck Fletcher, then Minnesota’s general manager, hired the two analysts who had attracted attention through Thomas’ development of the website War on Ice, which tracked statistical information from NHL games. Mandrycky, a Georgia Tech graduate, had joined the staff initially as a volunteer.

 

[Larry44]

I'm on the fence with Stone. There's going to be a lot of money thrown his way and with the Flyers already having big contracts on the books plus contracts that will be needed for Provorov, Sanheim, Konecny, Patrick, etc.....They just got out of salary cap hell and the last thing I want to see is them go back into it. As well, I'm not sure that as a player, Stone is going to age well. The skating part is what worries me. The smarts might be there as he gets older, but I'm not sure the skating will.

Agreed, pass entirely on Stone. Given the league's emphasis on speed, I'm not sure I want him, even if we could afford him. As good as he is, blazing speed is not exactly his thing. And we've got Konecny and Voracek at RW already, with Simmonds about to depart (I hope).

If we hadn't wasted $7 in cap room for the next four years on JVR, it might've been a consideration, but we know they want to add an expensive vet Dman as UFA or via trade. Unless JVR or Jake are getting dealt, we really can't afford another big ticket winger.

On top of that, we've got LOADS of great F prospects in the AHL or coming up, let's leave some room for few out of Aube-Kubel, Vorobyev, Bailey, Bunnaman, Frost, Farabee, Rubtsov, Ratcliffe, Allison, Laczynski etc. to make the team in the next 3-4 years....

 

[Deadpool8812]

knowing the flyers fo they are going to be in on bob, panarin, stone, maybe ek if he makes it in fa. it would in awesome if they somehow get all of them, that will be a pipe dream but when it comes to the flyers fo, anything is possible and fletch got both zach and sutter.

The Flyers won't be in on Bob

 

[Magua]

Looks like the Flyers are trying to add another person for the analytics department.



I guess in theory that's fine. But with Minnesota firing OG Fletcher hire, Andrew Thomas -- one of the biggest figures in hockey analytics and the creator of war-on-ice (with a PhD in Statistics from Harvard for good measure) -- keeping Ian Anderson is a pretty meh look to me. Call me skeptical that he was of any real use in the Hextall years, or that he will find himself useful in the future. He always reeked of being a "hockey guy" stats hire.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Looks like the Flyers are trying to add another person for the analytics department.



I guess in theory that's fine. But with Minnesota firing OG Fletcher hire, Andrew Thomas -- one of the biggest figures in hockey analytics and the creator of war-on-ice (with a PhD in Statistics from Harvard for good measure) -- keeping Ian Anderson is a pretty meh look to me. Call me skeptical that he was of any real use in the Hextall years, or that he will find himself useful in the future. He always reeked of being a "hockey guy" stats hire.

Sitting on a park bench...

 

[wankstifier]

Sitting on a park bench...

Standing on one leg

 

[gertbfrobe16]

Sitting on a park bench...

looking at crosseyed mary no doubt.