Post-Game Talk: GM 4: Canucks @ Sharks - Bye, Bye AV

[mossey3535]

Kevin Kyro ‏@KevinKyro 3m
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HOLY crap. The last 19/20 games Kelly Sutherland has called vs Vancouver, the opposing team has had more PP's

Dude I'm sorry to say this but I wouldn't be surprised if that number was similar for the majority of ref's in the league. Honestly, I think we might get more calls with a new coach who comes in and makes a lot of noise about discipline.

 

[604]

Will be difficult to do with all these contracts and NMCs handed out like candy.

1st question to Gillis is are you planning to fire AV.

2nd question is are you willing to ask guys with NTCs/NMCs if they would be willing to waive them.

If the answer to either question is "no", Gillis going out the door before AV (but they are both going).

 

[Lonny Bohonos]

The real losers are men who think it's shameful to cry. This is coming from a woman btw. So shut up.

Its not shameful to cry. Over a first round exit. Yes.

Am I loser because I cried when we lost the SCF?

Dont know. Maybe?

We are all losers. We are all Canucks.

Nice one. +1

 

[Type Not Specified]

The real losers are men who think it's shameful to cry. This is coming from a woman btw. So shut up.

It's shameful to resort to personal attacks when you disagree with someone's opinion.

 

[Lonny Bohonos]

It's shameful to resort to personal attacks when you disagree with someone's opinion.

It wasnt really a personal attack. Just hyperbole.

 

[604]

Well 2012-13 Canucks, thanks for the season even though it wasn't so great.

Actually looking forward to the off-season.

 

[vancityluongo]

Haven't seen Mak post this yet, apologies if he has. Obviously full credit to him, sorry if I'm stealing the glory, but it's worth seeing over and over...

Bieksa with the most minutes today at 33 minutes of icetime... Garrison with only 25...

People still think this is a personnel problem that has nothing to do with AV? Though, to be fair, Bieksa played great tonight despite being put in a disadvantageous position by a coach in his last game for the team.

That Sutherland stat is just mind-boggling.

 

[Type Not Specified]

Dude I'm sorry to say this but I wouldn't be surprised if that number was similar for the majority of ref's in the league. Honestly, I think we might get more calls with a new coach who comes in and makes a lot of noise about discipline.

I agree although with the same group of players you have to wonder how much difference a new coach would actually make. I guess it would depend somewhat on what kind of relationship the guy coming in already has with the officials.

 

[jigsaw99]

Playoff hockey refs.

 

[vancityluongo]

Dude I'm sorry to say this but I wouldn't be surprised if that number was similar for the majority of ref's in the league. Honestly, I think we might get more calls with a new coach who comes in and makes a lot of noise about discipline.

95% is atrocious. The Canucks are definitely an undisciplined team, but jesus. Impartiality would give a number like 60%...

 

[jigsaw99]

Kevin Kyro ‏@KevinKyro 3m
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HOLY crap. The last 19/20 games Kelly Sutherland has called vs Vancouver, the opposing team has had more PP's

funny thing is he is from Richmond. I guess he doesn't look like a homer so he calls us more.

 

[Bgav]

We scored 8 goals this series, islanders scored 6 in one game

 

[mossey3535]

I agree although with the same group of players you have to wonder how much difference a new coach would actually make. I guess it would depend somewhat on what kind of relationship the guy coming in already has with the officials.

I think that has a big impact. Usually a team like the Canucks starts to get more calls as they get better and win more. Look at Detroit - they're still riding their reputation as a good team and they get away with murder.

Considering that everyone knows the Sedins are good guys I always wondered why the team had so little pull with the refs. Obviously players like Lapierre and Kesler don't help but other teams have had those types of players and have overcome their reputation or at least their stars got favourable calls even if the annoying pests didn't.

Maybe AV had a bad relationship with the refs, who knows? This one is just a guess on my part but it would explain a lot.

 

[Type Not Specified]

We scored 8 goals this series, islanders scored 6 in one game

Clearly all because of Grabner.

 

[mossey3535]

95% is atrocious. The Canucks are definitely an undisciplined team, but jesus. Impartiality would give a number like 60%...

Yeah a little hyperbole on my part lol. But the refs aren't on our side right now, I think that much is pretty obvious - this last game is just the most recent and extreme example.

 

[Mikeshane]

Holy cow these Team 1040 guys think they're the dictators of Canucks opinions with their little disconnect button as soon as they don't like something someone says. I don't know how people can tolerate listening to these guys on a consistent basis. I like to tune in to hear some opinions in the playoffs but that's about all I can take.

 

[Lonny Bohonos]

I think that has a big impact. Usually a team like the Canucks starts to get more calls as they get better and win more. Look at Detroit - they're still riding their reputation as a good team and they get away with murder.

Considering that everyone knows the Sedins are good guys I always wondered why the team had so little pull with the refs. Obviously players like Lapierre and Kesler don't help but other teams have had those types of players and have overcome their reputation or at least their stars got favourable calls even if the annoying pests didn't.

Maybe AV had a bad relationship with the refs, who knows? This one is just a guess on my part but it would explain a lot.

Burrows and his big mouth.

 

[jigsaw99]

We scored 8 goals this series, islanders scored 6 in one game

but but but AV doesnt have anyone to work with like Okposo or Casey Cizikas

 

[mossey3535]

Burrows and his big mouth.

I would normally agree 100% with this but I watched 24/7 and EVERYBODY chirps the refs and swears at them. Is Burrows really THAT BAD? Like, we're trying to say Burrows is worse and more annoying than, say, Carcillo or Marchand? I find that hard to believe.

 

[Lonny Bohonos]

I would normally agree 100% with this but I watched 24/7 and EVERYBODY chirps the refs and swears at them. Is Burrows really THAT BAD? Like, we're trying to say Burrows is worse and more annoying than, say, Carcillo or Marchand? I find that hard to believe.

No. But he publicly called out the ref(Auger) in his frustration. Broke the code, right or wrong.

Not to mention there is a level of chirping that is allowed. Most refs will let stuff go as long as it doesn't get too personal.

 

[Lonny Bohonos]

Holy cow these Team 1040 guys think they're the dictators of Canucks opinions with their little disconnect button as soon as they don't like something someone says. I don't know how people can tolerate listening to these guys on a consistent basis. I like to tune in to hear some opinions in the playoffs but that's about all I can take.

So you got cut off for calling twice eh?

 

[Vankiller Whale]

but but but AV doesnt have anyone to work with like Okposo or Casey Cizikas

Marc
Andre
Fleury

That is all.

 

[Lonny Bohonos]

Marc
Andre
Fleury

That is all.

Sounds like it. Ive got to watch this game when I get home.

 

[serge2k]

I would normally agree 100% with this but I watched 24/7 and EVERYBODY chirps the refs and swears at them. Is Burrows really THAT BAD? Like, we're trying to say Burrows is worse and more annoying than, say, Carcillo or Marchand? I find that hard to believe.

Auger.

 

[M A K A V E L I*]

I would normally agree 100% with this but I watched 24/7 and EVERYBODY chirps the refs and swears at them. Is Burrows really THAT BAD? Like, we're trying to say Burrows is worse and more annoying than, say, Carcillo or Marchand? I find that hard to believe.

Forget about the players, the damn refs swear themselves.