TV: Game of Thrones | Season 6 | Part VI (NO BOOK DISCUSSION - NO SPOILERS!)

[The Lunatic Fridge]

I wonder if Jon and Benjen will have "I was left for dead" bro moment.

"FROZEN STIFF" - A romcom by George RR Martin

Temperatures drop but passions burn ever hotter North of the Wall.

I've seen enough porn to know where this is going.

 

[hoyster]

I'll go with The Waif too.

If there's going to be a trial by combat between HS and Cersei, who will be the HS champion?

Loras vs Mountain part 2?

Or is it going to be some boring "We don't believe in trial by combat anymore"

 

[Eye of Ra]

the women with the mask from season 1, who is she? she seemed to know a great deal about dany.

Maybe she is that new red priestess from last week episode?

 

[Eye of Ra]

"FROZEN STIFF" - A romcom by George RR Martin

Temperatures drop but passions burn ever hotter North of the Wall.

I like her curly hair.

 

[darko]

Edmure 'Where's my wifey' Tully in the Death Pool please.

 

[Dr Pepper]

So with Benjen back in the mix, anyone want to guess on whether or not we'll have a Gendry sighting this season?

 

[Garo]

So with Benjen back in the mix, anyone want to guess on whether or not we'll have a Gendry sighting this season?

We heard a Brotherhood reference last episode. Gendry was with them before.

Get hyped.

 

[V13]

I think the Queen of Thornes dies at the hands of the Zombie Mountain since she is an enemy of Cersie and he doesn't have the best grasp of nuance and diplomacy any more.

I don't think The Mountain ever had a sense of diplomacy . If anything he's probably less of a loose cannon now then he was before Quyburn worked his special skills on him.

He's more like a robot now. Before he was just a murderer , rapist and a brute (who still followed Lannister orders but was more prone to outbursts of rage and excessive violence because he still had a personality)

 

[Dr Pepper]

We heard a Brotherhood reference last episode. Gendry was with them before.

Get hyped.

He was, until they turned him over to Melisandre. Then he was "rescued" by Ser Davos and sent away on a rowboat, to parts unknown.

He's been rowing for three seasons.

 

[Dr Pepper]

I don't think The Mountain ever had a sense of diplomacy . If anything he's probably less of a loose cannon now then he was before Quyburn worked his special skills on him.

He's more like a robot now. Before he was just a murderer , rapist and a brute (who still followed Lannister orders but was more prone to outbursts of rage and excessive violence because he still had a personality)

Seems that way. Expressionless, voiceless, subservient.

 

[ap3x]

So with Benjen back in the mix, anyone want to guess on whether or not we'll have a Gendry sighting this season?

Benjen asked Gendry to jump on, but he insisted to keep on rowing. Guess he's training for Rio this year.

 

[PALE PWNR]

Benjen for death pool

 

[Arcade Fire]

Going with Grand Maester "No Lab for Old Men" Pycelle again for the death pool!

 

[LightningStrikes]

A friend and me have been talking and come to a nice theory, maybe it's been discussed already: What if the real test for Arya was to in fact decline the order to kill the Cersei actress? What if the "face that will be added" is the waif's face, who obviously nurses some kind of grudge against Arya - something the Faceless Men don't like too much? What if the lesson for Arya was to be able to select orders or rather detect morally suspect orders and decline them? I mean we have never seen Jaqen H'ghar kill innocents so it's likely it's against their code. Arya declining to kill the actress was her "test in the test". She passed the test, the waif on the other hand failed it and will pay the price for it (as Arya is going to kill her).

 

[ArGarBarGar]

A friend and me found have been talking and come to a nice theory, maybe it's been discussed already: What if the real test for Arya was to in fact decline the order to kill the Cersei actress? What if the "face that will be added" is the waif's face, who obviously nurses some kind of grudge against Arya - something the Faceless Men don't like too much? What if the lesson for Arya was to be able to select orders or rather detect morally suspect orders and decline them? I mean we have never seen Jaqen H'ghar kill innocents so it's likely it's against their code. Arya declining to kill the actress was her "test in the test". The waif on the other hand failed it.

That makes no sense to me. It would go against the "Does death only come for the wicked" quote which was meant to be used as a lesson. Death does not discriminate.

 

[JDinkalage Morgoone]

That makes no sense to me. It would go against the "Does death only come for the wicked" quote which was meant to be used as a lesson. Death does not discriminate.

I agree. "A price was paid." They are paid to kill, and if they take the money, they deliver the kill. There was a quote earlier in the show that if a price was paid to the Faceless Men, the person was as good as dead. They are hurting the FM street cred now.

That said, I'll take the Waif for the death pool. No way Arya dies now.

Maybe The Waif kills Jaqen after being confronted and we find out that he was Syrio. That'd feel cheap, but I've suspected that for a while (along with others.)

 

[bigdirty]

A friend and me found have been talking and come to a nice theory, maybe it's been discussed already: What if the real test for Arya was to in fact decline the order to kill the Cersei actress? What if the "face that will be added" is the waif's face, who obviously nurses some kind of grudge against Arya - something the Faceless Men don't like too much? What if the lesson for Arya was to be able to select orders or rather detect morally suspect orders and decline them? I mean we have never seen Jaqen H'ghar kill innocents so it's likely it's against their code. Arya declining to kill the actress was her "test in the test". She passed the test, the waif on the other hand failed it and will pay the price for it (as Arya is going to kill her).

He did offer to kill any three people Arya wanted however, and he had no idea who she would pick, so he could've ended up killing innocent people if she asked him to.

Though I've kinda been wondering the same thing about the whole situation. It seems really strange that after all that time, Arya's just going to leave and that's all we'll see of the faceless men. There's got to be more going on than there appears to be. Maybe killing the waif will be 'good enough' for the many faced god or something.

 

[LightningStrikes]

He did offer to kill any three people Arya wanted however, and he had no idea who she would pick, so he could've ended up killing innocent people if she asked him to.

Though I've kinda been wondering the same thing about the whole situation. It seems really strange that after all that time, Arya's just going to leave and that's all we'll see of the faceless men. There's got to be more going on than there appears to be. Maybe killing the waif will be 'good enough' for the many faced god or something.

I think he had at least an idea of whom she'd pick. Why would she pick innocents in the situation she was in when she met him? It was more an illusion of "a free choice". Why would he even let himself get caught by the Lannister people? It's much more likely he did it in order to get to her, therefore he knew about her, maybe even about her list.

 

[Dr Pepper]

"Unname me."
"No."
"Please?"
"Ok."
"Thank you."

 

[Gee Wally]

My death pool pick: Randyll Tarly

He goes after his sword.....and 'gets it'.

 

[USC Trojans]

I agree. "A price was paid." They are paid to kill, and if they take the money, they deliver the kill. There was a quote earlier in the show that if a price was paid to the Faceless Men, the person was as good as dead. They are hurting the FM street cred now.

That said, I'll take the Waif for the death pool. No way Arya dies now.

Maybe The Waif kills Jaqen after being confronted and we find out that he was Syrio. That'd feel cheap, but I've suspected that for a while (along with others.)

I do find it a bit odd that a theater understudy would have the money to hire a Faceless Man for assassination. You'd figure they'd be very expensive...otherwise anyone could just hire them to kill all their enemies.

 

[Blender]

I do find it a bit odd that a theater understudy would have the money to hire a Faceless Man for assassination. You'd figure they'd be very expensive...otherwise anyone could just hire them to kill all their enemies.

They don't always ask for money. She may have paid another price.

 

[ap3x]

That makes no sense to me. It would go against the "Does death only come for the wicked" quote which was meant to be used as a lesson. Death does not discriminate.

Seeing them not to appreciate the Waif's personal grudge though.
So Arya killing her most likely won't lead to any negative repercussions in that regard. Just not sure how they go from there.

 

[JDinkalage Morgoone]

Yeah, I definitely agree with the sentiment that she has a personal grudge with Arya, and that a girl who is no one will not carry a grudge.

That's where I think the Waif comes for Arya, they have this big discussion, then Jaqen appears and either kills the Waif, is killed by the Waif (and Arya finds out that that particular person had been Syrio) or Arya ends up killing the Waif.

I am kind of hoping the waif is just another person further along in her training. If they make the Waif somebody we've seen before (either from Arya's past or from another story) I think I'll be upset.


As for the Faceless Men only killing bad people, no. I don't buy that at all. Morality is subjective, first of all. Second of all, I don't understand how a guild of assassins can have a moral code. I understand they had humble beginnings and good intentions of freeing the Valyrian mine slaves, but I am in full belief that if a price is paid to them, they will kill their target.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

What grudge is there exactly? The waif was tasked with tailing her and putting her down during her training. She is a devoted member of the Faceless Men and has done her job to a tee. She hasn't spit in the face of their ways like Arya has.

The only reason Arya lasted this long before being green lit is because Jaqen liked her spunk and cleverness.