Speculation: Front Office

[Honour Over Glory]

I agree. If it had to do with team performance (lack of better term) for his role, he'd be canned weeks ago. The timing makes me think it's personal as well.

The rumours are that he kept sending Sully sweaty Dick picks like this....

Dick pic.

 

[Jacob]

I don’t know what a HOA does but I like having Daley around.

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

I don’t know what a HOA does but I like having Daley around.

Same, always liked Daley as a player, always seemed like a good person, welcome back.

 

[Tom Hanks]

Does this mean Ceci is gone?

 

[Honour Over Glory]

We've become the joke of a franchise we've always mocked around the league.

So this team effectively has no real AGM, Daley is in some role that directly reports to the biggest f***ing muppet in this organization, this is awful.

I feel like they'll hire Botterill back and I really don't want anyone that has worked with JR in any capacity as the next GM, I'd rather they fired the f***ing tosser and hired an up and coming GM away from a competent franchise.

 

[StroShow]

seems like a good move

 

[Honour Over Glory]

seems like a good move

So Sam couldn't at any point tell JR that Jack Johnson would be a bad signing? Or that Ceci is also a bad one?

I recall a list that also said Botterill was a top exec and all that as well.

 

[Peat]

I want to have an opinion about this but honestly I feel like I don't have a scoobie as to what's going on.

I am going to throw one theory out there and that this is still largely a personality business at the top off the ice. Maybe Rutherford took one look at Karmanos as the heir apparent and decided he simply didn't have what it took to be a future GM, so he's moving him to make way. Another is that he's decided Karmanos didn't have a good enough pro player evaluating brain, and that all the WBS/analytics/amateur scouting stuff could be handled by other guys.

Both theories to no small extent influenced by hiring Daley, a really respected hockey guy and leader, mainly to scout NHL/AHL players (and also help out the coaching staff), but also ones you could make in general given Karmanos' route to the top so far.

 

[Andy99]

I see this as coming from the top and indicates that maybe they aren’t as happy with JR as we think and want major changes...are they positioning to bring in AGM from outside the organization? Getting rid of Sullivan’s and JR’s stooges is telling and hopefully indicates they are both on their last shot...

 

[AlphaMikeFoxtrots]

I don’t know what a HOA does but I like having Daley around.

On the one hand I'm over the moon bc Dales seems like a very delightful person that can only be good to have around in any capacity, on the other....flee, my very good dude, save yourself

 

[Beauner]

We've become the joke of a franchise we've always mocked around the league.

So this team effectively has no real AGM, Daley is in some role that directly reports to the biggest f***ing muppet in this organization, this is awful.

I feel like they'll hire Botterill back and I really don't want anyone that has worked with JR in any capacity as the next GM, I'd rather they fired the f***ing tosser and hired an up and coming GM away from a competent franchise.

Have a drink and calm down.

This does not mean much in the grand scheme of things. No need to over analyze

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Have a drink and calm down.

This does not mean much in the grand scheme of things. No need to over analyze

Look at what has happened to this franchise in the course of the last 12 months.

Fired 3 assistant coaches.
Fired their Assistant General Manager.
Finally bought out a horrible player and contract.
Then showing they learned nothing, sign an equally terrible player, albeit to a 1yr contract.
Traded away two 1st round picks.

Yeah, it's maddening.

 

[Night Shift]

I can't even blame JR for this. This idiocy goes well above that f***ing tit.

I'm wondering if Daley has been still working in the NHL? Or we just pulled him off the street and we just gonna teach him how to be a GM

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I'm wondering if Daley has been still working in the NHL? Or we just pulled him off the street and we just gonna teach him how to be a GM

Daley was literally on the Wings a few months ago and now he's got a head office gig.

There's literally no way to make sense of that, mate.

 

[Night Shift]

Daley was literally on the Wings a few months ago and now he's got a head office gig.

There's literally no way to make sense of that, mate.

Yeah but you know one of JR's favorite sayings "you can't have enough Defensman"

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Yeah but you know one of JR's favorite sayings "you can't have enough Defensman"

JR and Shero mentality...

 

[Night Shift]

I see this as coming from the top and indicates that maybe they aren’t as happy with JR as we think and want major changes...are they positioning to bring in AGM from outside the organization? Getting rid of Sullivan’s and JR’s stooges is telling and hopefully indicates they are both on their last shot...

If true, It's fair. They all had a good run here and now things may be getting stale, it happens. The only thing I wanted was Sullivan to break Bylsmas win record, I kinda resent that he is the all time wins leader.

 

[Night Shift]

JR and Shero mentality...

Shero must be the one by the NYPD truck since that's closer to Jersey

 

[EightyOne]

We've become the joke of a franchise we've always mocked around the league.

So this team effectively has no real AGM, Daley is in some role that directly reports to the biggest f***ing muppet in this organization, this is awful.

I feel like they'll hire Botterill back and I really don't want anyone that has worked with JR in any capacity as the next GM, I'd rather they fired the f***ing tosser and hired an up and coming GM away from a competent franchise.

Im actually not going to be surprised if the ownership group tries to sell again at this point

 

[Night Shift]

Im actually not going to be surprised if the ownership group tries to sell again at this point

I was thinking about that not long ago. This was a story before the back to back cups as they wanted (or trying to) to sell then, so I expect it to come up again sooner than later

 

[Ugene Magic]

Shero must be the one by the NYPD truck since that's closer to Jersey

Shero was fired in Jan.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Im actually not going to be surprised if the ownership group tries to sell again at this point

That joke some bloke here made about Austin Lemieux being the next GM, doesn't sound so much like a joke anymore.

 

[Night Shift]

Shero was fired in Jan.

I Stand corrected. Missed that one.

 

[EightyOne]

I was thinking about that not long ago. This was a story before the back to back cups as they wanted (or trying to) to sell then, so I expect it to come up again sooner than later

They were shopping it for sure during the doomed 2015 season before pulling out the Cup lol they canceled the exploration Oct 2016

Report: Penguins owners seek record $750 million to sell team

Pittsburgh Penguins no longer for sale

 

[Tacitus Kilgore]

The relationship between Daley and Sid was wholesome af. IIrc Daley lost his mom shortly after winning the Cup, that story line I think was big in the dressing room on the way to the big win.