Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 4

[TheNewEra]

Could they send down Kelly and sign Bailey to a league minimum? Or can they send down Kelly and keep up Smejkal?

We can do this. Bailey's league minimum will be slightly higher than Kellys

We can also swap Kelly with smejkal however smejkal has about a 100k higher cap hit so pinto would need to sign for 1.5 or less

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Wait. What happened to JuliEn Gauthier?

 

[JD1]

its the same here though. when they are on the roster or in the farm they are unwaivable future nhlers, but on waivers they dont even have a nhl future lol

Balcers says hello

 

[Senscore]

Wait. What happened to JuliEn Gauthier?

We didn't qualify him.

Islanders gave him a 2 year deal.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Balcers says hello

We didn't qualify him.

Islanders gave him a 2 year deal.

Damn. He would have looked nice in that fourth line RW spot. I actually really liked him for what he was. I have crunched any numbers on him tho in terms of salary.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Definitely not surprising and I think this is a great sign that they're prioritizing the best roster possible.

JBD is a bust, so be it. Same goes for Sokolov and Thomson imo. Much ado about nothing at this point really and if they aren't effective players, move on from them.

If they do the same to Kelly, I'll be stoked, but I'm skeptical given last years treatment.

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

We didn't qualify him.

Islanders gave him a 2 year deal.

I liked him as a bottom 6 guy. Size and speed.

 

[BUCKLE UP]

I honestly don't know why DJ didn't like Gauthier. He seemed to be in the dog house really early on. I thought he played well in his limited minutes.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I honestly don't know why DJ didn't like Gauthier. He seemed to be in the dog house really early on. I thought he played well in his limited minutes.

Didn’t like people that looked better than Kelly

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

Didn’t like people that looked better than Kelly

Not sure how anyone can look at Gauthier and Kelly and say Kelly is the better of the two

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Not sure how anyone can look at Gauthier and Kelly and say Kelly is the better of the two

DJ smith can

 

[Cosmix]

hate the idea of running a 20 man roster. Really hope that’s not the plan here.

It might be Option B. Option A might be trading a player to obtain a draft pick and thus remove that player's cap hit. Option C might be trading a player and a high pick (1st or second round) to get a lower draft pick and thus remove/reduce that player's cap hit. There are many potential options.

 

[Cosmix]

Probably, but my super sexy jacked physique is worth it

My son says he has a great 6 pack; I counter with "I have a full 24!"

Assuming Pinto comes at 1.5 and the line ups we have seen during preseason here is my prediction at opening night roster

12 f 6 d 2 g
no spare forwards and D.

Its tricky which way they go with 4th line LW. I think it should be Smejkal but they likely stick with Kelly as it will save money. Either player will have to be waived This is also a disadvantage to Greig and Jarventie both players would make the 4th line better but 2 way salary and waiver eligibility will prevent us from icing the best possible roster...


Tkachuk - Stutzle - Giroux
Batherson - Norris - Tarasenko
Kubalik - Pinto - Joseph
Kelly - Kastelic - MacEwan

Chychrun - Chabot
Sanderson - Zub
Brannstrom - Hamonic

Korpisalo
Forsberg

Thats still a deadly roster imo.

Does it for me, given the cap situation.

 

[alfstheman]

Does the jbd and soko waiving completely remove their cap hits?

capfriendly has us at 121K in space.
+ 1.58 mill cap for jbd and soko
= 1.79 mill in space now?

 

[Qward]

Does the jbd and soko waiving completely remove their cap hits?

capfriendly has us at 121K in space.
+ 1.58 mill cap for jbd and soko
= 1.79 mill in space now?

They have to clear waivers first.

If you go onto arm chair GM you can see how much space we have once they are waived.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Bailey isn't getting more than 775k. When they call his agent to offer him a 1 year deal at 775k, the response from the agent is going to be, "Are you sure?".

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

I would not trade Pinto for Lafreniere.

From the perspective of who the Sens need more and who might project to be better, I would not either.

From the perspective of someone who loves absolute chaos and a good story, I would.

The trade makes zero sense anyways. There would have to be multiple different components to bring a middle 6C to Ottawa, since it is pretty clear something is up with Norris. Not to mention, Lafreniere faces the same issues here as he would in New York, there are too many wingers ahead of him.

Does the jbd and soko waiving completely remove their cap hits?

capfriendly has us at 121K in space.
+ 1.58 mill cap for jbd and soko
= 1.79 mill in space now?

They get cap space, but it's not real functional cap space because they will theoretically replace them with another player who makes 775k+ in order to get up to at least the 20 players needed to play a game without being short handed.

 

[Cosmix]

Bailey isn't getting more than 775k. When they call his agent to offer him a 1 year deal at 775k, the response from the agent is going to be, "Are you sure?".

I don't want Bailey on the team. Go with a younger player with a future.

 

[Liver King]

I think the plan is to sign Pinto to a 1 year deal.

If he wants 2.5 x 2 they may settle on a 1 year deal at 1.5 with a handshake agreement on a 3.5m extension in Jan. 5 mil over two years either way

The hold up for this could have been the Staios hiring, as the agent needs to put a lot of trust in the GM for this to work

We obviously are not trading Brann, and if Joseph is getting dealt it wouldn’t make much sense to risk losing Sokolov for nothing

Pinto gets the money he wants and better line mates. But we run a small roster

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

I don't want Bailey on the team. Go with a younger player with a future.

You need at least one player who can share a good 2015 Oshawa Generals anecdote in the lunchroom. Sokolov could try, but I think DJ Smith is too smart for that.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

Yeah it's a pass for me on Bailey. We can replace whatever he brings internally.

 

[dmarc]

Sorry if this has been mentioned but is it allowed to reacquire Murray? We know he's not going to play this year, sure we'll be on the hook for 20ish percent of his salary but getting that 1.5 million back in cap space would be nice

 

[BigRig4]

Sorry if this has been mentioned but is it allowed to reacquire Murray? We know he's not going to play this year, sure we'll be on the hook for 20ish percent of his salary but getting that 1.5 million back in cap space would be nice

I suspect Leafs helping out a divisional rival would cost as much as just moving Joseph

 

[Ghost of Jody Hull]

I suspect Leafs helping out a divisional rival would cost as much as just moving Joseph

And the Leafs need that LTIR space as much, if not more, than us.

 

[Micklebot]

And the Leafs need that LTIR space as much, if not more, than us.

Any LTIR space they lose with trading Murray is made up for by not having Murray's cap hit, they'd still have 5.6 mil in LTIR relief from Muzzin, and still be about 3 mil over the cap (beyond what LTIR relief covers) with a 23 man roster.

I'm not sure I follow how they need his LTIR space.