Rumor: Flyers gearing up to trade Wayne Simmonds

[SnS]

And also @SnS if we don’t move Killorn he would have to play 4th line

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We took Lethera last off season to get a second first for Schenn.

He had a 2 year deal with a bad contract.
Killorn has 5 years left at nearly 5 million.

 

[SnS]

Connor Brown is an excellent 3rd line RW and a staple on the PK.

He likely loses his job to Kasperi Kapanen, though.

Kapanen has developed into a very good PK guy and has better tools to contribute offensively.

I’m a huge fan of Kapenen. But most flyers fans would want him in return.

I think brown is an ideal target. We need competent PK players.

 

[Scott Malkinson]

I’m a huge fan of Kapenen. But most flyers fans would want him in return.

I think brown is an ideal target. We need competent PK players.

Brown is probably our best PK guy.

He also blocks shots with his face and is all heart.

He's the type of player Edmonton doesn't have, that's why the suck.

 

[Tripod]

Connor Brown is an excellent 3rd line RW and a staple on the PK.

He likely loses his job to Kasperi Kapanen, though.

Kapanen has developed into a very good PK guy and has better tools to contribute offensively.

Brown is the ideal guy for Philly to get along with a 1st.

fills the 3rd line spot that Simmonds now has
Helps the PK
adds speed which they need
fits the age
cost controlled and is a RFA when his deal ends

 

[Starat327]

Connor Brown is an excellent 3rd line RW and a staple on the PK.

He likely loses his job to Kasperi Kapanen, though.

Kapanen has developed into a very good PK guy and has better tools to contribute offensively.

Right, which is why he'd be my target. Im sure Toronto wouldn't mind keeping him on the 4th line either, as he can probably play up and down as needed.

I dont see Simmonds as a good fit in Toronto, personally, specifically due to their RW depth. But if Toronto wants to make a deal, im all ears.

 

[SnS]

Simmonds is, and has been, a really good player. I just don't want to acquire him for the very same reasons that the Flyers are looking to move him. I also think that the league as it is is moving away from the style of play where he is most effective. I think Wilson's recent success has been an anamoly, not a trend. Wild have really missed two of their young, speedy players who went to Vegas in the ED, Haula and Tuch. Those are the types of players they need to be targeting. Haula was a 7th rounder, Tuch a late teens pick...not unobtainium.

I think that the Flyers and the Wild are in similar places. Wild are a bit older, a bit better, but with less in the way of prospects.

I absolutely agree with everything you stated. I was just curious because as far as I knew Russo had some Minnesota sources and I wasn’t sure if he lost them with the changing of the guard. I’ve always had a soft spot for some guys on the Wild, including haula when he was there. I don’t think Simmonds to Minnesota makes too much sense, but I just figured I’d ask. There’s too much smoke around Simmonds to not think of all the possibilities.

Which is why I think a Simmonds can be either a futures or a hockey trade (1 for 1 RHD or Lw or something with a small add added on.)

 

[Scott Malkinson]

Right, which is why he'd be my target. Im sure Toronto wouldn't mind keeping him on the 4th line either, as he can probably play up and down as needed.

I dont see Simmonds as a good fit in Toronto, personally, specifically due to their RW depth. But if Toronto wants to make a deal, im all ears.

Toronto needs a net-front presence, with the departure of JVR.

 

[SnS]

Right, which is why he'd be my target. Im sure Toronto wouldn't mind keeping him on the 4th line either, as he can probably play up and down as needed.

I dont see Simmonds as a good fit in Toronto, personally, specifically due to their RW depth. But if Toronto wants to make a deal, im all ears.

Brown is the ideal guy for Philly to get along with a 1st.

fills the 3rd line spot that Simmonds now has
Helps the PK
adds speed which they need
fits the age
cost controlled and is a RFA when his deal ends

Both these posts are spot on. I usually agree with these two posts, so it doesn’t shock me we are agreeing here.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

We took Lethera last off season to get a second first for Schenn.

He had a 2 year deal with a bad contract.
Killorn has 5 years left at nearly 5 million.

It’s under 4.5. Also Killorn can play unlike lehtera

 

[SnS]

Brown is probably our best PK guy.

He also blocks shots with his face and is all heart.

He's the type of player Edmonton doesn't have, that's why the suck.

We need PK guys, and flyers fans love people who block shots with their face(see lappy when he was on the flyers).

I just don’t know 100% if the problem is the Pk formula or the players.

But brown definitely checks boxes for this flyers fan.

 

[DrJustice]

What kind of assets would the Flyers be looking for from the Bruins?

 

[SnS]

It’s under 4.5. Also Killorn can play unlike lehtera

He’s 28, 5 more years on his deal. He doesn’t fit with the futures part of the deal and I wouldn’t do a hockey trade involving Killorn. It just doesn’t make sense from the flyers perspective. And I don’t see that as the “best” offer if it were potentially even on the table. That is one of those offers I’d probably vomit over like Tyler Myers for Wayne Simmonds straight up. I can’t see Hextall being impressed with either of them.

Having Jori wouldn’t of even been an issue if Hakstol wasn’t obsessed with him. We know he’s garbage. But he was only a 2 year cap dump. He is gone after this season, maybe sooner if Hextall waives him.

 

[Scott Malkinson]

Right, which is why he'd be my target. Im sure Toronto wouldn't mind keeping him on the 4th line either, as he can probably play up and down as needed.

I dont see Simmonds as a good fit in Toronto, personally, specifically due to their RW depth. But if Toronto wants to make a deal, im all ears.

Assuming Toronto could get Simmonds and Tavares, the lineup would look something like this...

Hyman - Matthews - Nylander
Marleau - Tavares - Marner
Johnsson - Kadri - Simmonds
Martin - Aaltonen - Kapanen

Cart before the horse, I know. But it's June 20th.

 

[Tripod]

It’s under 4.5. Also Killorn can play unlike lehtera

Just stop....we don't want Killorn.

 

[SnS]

What kind of assets would the Flyers be looking for from the Bruins?

Either a hockey trade or I see his value as 1st / young player or prospect / late round pick. We can also take on a short term cap dump. But I prefer not more that two years. I’m not sure how long Hextall would be wanting a cap dump for.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

He’s 28, 5 more years on his deal. He doesn’t fit with the futures part of the deal and I wouldn’t do a hockey trade involving Killorn. It just doesn’t make sense from the flyers perspective. And I don’t see that as the “best” offer if it were potentially even on the table. That is one of those offers I’d probably vomit over like Tyler Myers for Wayne Simmonds straight up. I can’t see Hextall being impressed with either of them.

Having Jori wouldn’t of even been an issue if Hakstol wasn’t obsessed with him. We know he’s garbage. But he was only a 2 year cap dump. He is gone after this season, maybe sooner if Hextall waives him.

Killer is coming off a 47 Point season btw, he’s no scrub

 

[SnS]

Just stop....we don't want Killorn.

I was trying to explain that out rather then just outright saying that. But this might work better.

 

[Tripod]

What kind of assets would the Flyers be looking for from the Bruins?

Make an offer using the Brown+1st as a guide...or the deal to beat!

 

[The Burdened]

no interesest whatsoever in Alex Killorn
I would probably rather let Wayne go for nothing next summer than take on the remainder of Killorn's deal

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Just stop....we don't want Killorn.

Fair but you are selling him short by calling him a cap dump

 

[SnS]

Killer is coming off a 47 Point season btw, he’s no scrub

I’m aware. I never once said he’s a scrub. But I wouldn’t want him as a valued piece in a deal for Wayne Simmonds.

 

[SnS]

Fair but you are selling him short by calling him a cap dump

I called him the cap dump for the purpose of the trade you offered.

 

[Scott Malkinson]

Killer is coming off a 47 Point season btw, he’s no scrub

Killorn has 4 full years left on his contract at nearly $4.5M a year.

He's a 40 point guy and closing in on 30 years of age.

Connor Brown is 5 years younger and on track to be cheaper and equally as productive.

 

[AvatarAang]

Brown is probably our best PK guy.

He also blocks shots with his face and is all heart.

He's the type of player Edmonton doesn't have, that's why the suck.

Edmonton added a generational hockey player, the best in the world and they still suck. The players aren't the problem in Edmonton, it's the management.

Oilers are living proof you could have a team filled with lottery picks and it won't matter if your GM is incompetent.

 

[Scott Malkinson]

Edmonton added a generational hockey player, the best in the world and they still suck. The players aren't the problem in Edmonton, it's the management.

Oilers are living proof you could have a team filled with lottery picks and it won't matter if your GM is incompetent.

Edmonton's problem is they need support guys like Brown and Hyman.

They don't have it. They draft poorly outside the 1st round.

You can have Gretzky on your team but if you round out the team with garbage like Mark Letestu and Anton Slepyshev, you're not going to win games.