Fire Tocchet #2

[Coyotedroppings]

They may take exception to someone like Hayton being inexplicably benched when Caggiula is out there turning over pucks in the dzone. Probably the dumbest ingame adjustment made this year so far.

Don’t agree with it, but guessing the mindset is that Cagg’s was getting opportunities and eventually he’d capitalize on one.

 

[_Del_]

They aren't going to fire Tocchet early in a season which they stressed development and haven't had a preseason.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news. Pray that they "promote" him this off-season instead. Much more likely.

 

[PuckLife]

If it’s a development year, shouldn’t Hayton be getting more stability and ice time? Shouldn’t Soda be in the lineup?

shouldn’t we see him talking to young players at any point?

Tocchet doesn’t have a clue on development.

I hope the new assistants can pick up the slack.

 

[_Del_]

I'm very public with my "Please fire this assclown"-stance. I'm just telling you, you're living in a fantasy world if you think an early losing streak will get them to fire him. The fact they brought in brand new assistants, some of whom were familiar with the team in the A (Varady) is extremely encouraging. I just don't think it is going to go down like that. They'd have already fired him when BA came on if Tocc was on that short a leash.

 

[MIGs Dog]

I'm very public with my "Please fire this assclown"-stance. I'm just telling you, you're living in a fantasy world if you think an early losing streak will get them to fire him. The fact they brought in brand new assistants, some of whom were familiar with the team in the A (Varady) is extremely encouraging. I just don't think it is going to go down like that. They'd have already fired him when BA came on if Tocc was on that short a leash.

Alternate scenario: Ownership is high on RT. Ergo, even if BA wasn't when hired he would have a hard time convincing management otherwise. An early season losing streak may give BA the ammunition to make the case for change.

 

[_Del_]

The fact they didn't let him fill his staff until late tells you he's on a leash with BA. They just aren't going to fire him based on a losing streak. They'll keep him through the season unless he ignores the direction coming from top-to-bottom.

 

[Mosby]

I’m interested to see what happens with the D next game. Gross earned another look and that likely means Soderstrom sits again. But this absolutely cannot turn into Soderstrom sitting out for weeks on end.

I know the AHL season is approaching but who knows their plan with him. Soderstrom cannot do what Hayton did last year.

 

[lanky]

They'll keep him through the season

but not a minute longer.

 

[_Del_]

but not a minute longer.

I think the plan is for him to fall upwards right after the season.

 

[BUX7PHX]

We're going to have to draft it, man. And for that, we need picks, and they need to be in the first half of rounds.

Hence why we traded for Hall. I don't think that the GM thought we were SC contenders, but the likelihood of where we were trending meant giving up a minimum of 1 1st round pick in the back half of the 1st round. Likely two if we re-sign. Hall = talent. Picks after 15 have talent, but likely a much longer way to get there.

The fact that we have picks drafted in spots that should indicate talent tells me our coaches haven't done enough at the NHL level to bring them along, especially when some later gems like Jenik, Farinacci, Bergkvist have developed.

Tocchet should just retire to Vegas. I actually think he has more gambling wins than NHL wins, so stick with what you know

 

[rt]

I think the plan is for him to fall upwards right after the season.

Assistant something and VP of something?

 

[Mosby]

I’d be shocked if Tocchet remains with the org. I think it’ll just be a clean firing. Or even “contract wasn’t renewed”. Besides, I think he wants to coach.

 

[Jakey53]

I’m interested to see what happens with the D next game. Gross earned another look and that likely means Soderstrom sits again. But this absolutely cannot turn into Soderstrom sitting out for weeks on end.

I know the AHL season is approaching but who knows their plan with him. Soderstrom cannot do what Hayton did last year.

Bush is back, and I expect OEL back shortly so it's anyone's guess what happens but I expect Gross and Soderstrom will be in the A until they make room hopefully sooner than later.

 

[GiveAFlyingPuck]

This seems to say that a significant amount of players don't listen to him.

 

[MIGs Dog]

This seems to say that a significant amount of players don't listen to him.

Or it was meant as a joke.

 

[JasonDemersWasOkay]

I would just so love to see what Gerard Gallant or Bruce Boudreau could do with this team. I’m sick and tired of tocchet’s “system”.

 

[Ebb]

I’d be shocked if Tocchet remains with the org. I think it’ll just be a clean firing. Or even “contract wasn’t renewed”. Besides, I think he wants to coach.

Let me correct that a bit: Besides, I think he wants to coach? Just saying, I haven't seen much out of him to show he wants to motivate the team to increase scoring. It's kind of like he's saying "Trust the system; it works...it really really really works, trust me..."

 

[AJ171181]

Fire the coach. It is really enough.

We cant move forward any yard with this garbage system.

 

[WrinkledPossum]

I thought this was Tocchets last year under contract?

 

[Mosby]

It is. Year 4 of a 4 year deal.

 

[moosemeister]

I thought this was Tocchets last year under contract?

Firing him sounds so much better than letting him walk when it expires

 

[cobra427]

So we have almost 4 years to judge RT. Not many players have really improved or stood out other than Kuemper and Garland. While many players have regressed, it seems like he hasn't gotten the most out of the team or over achieved in any one season as a group. Our great goal tending might have masked some flaws along the way.

I always thought Tip got blood out of a stone in many ways. I feel like RT has had better rosters but less performance in general. I am sure BA is evaluating him and his assistants that might take over at some point. Unless we are way out of a playoff spot in the next 20 games, I think the coaching change will be after the season.

 

[_Del_]

I always thought Tip got blood out of a stone in many ways

You should really admire what he's squeezing out of Edmonton, then...

 

[AZviaNJ]

Bush is back, and I expect OEL back shortly so it's anyone's guess what happens but I expect Gross and Soderstrom will be in the A until they make room hopefully sooner than later.

yup, then when Demers and Goose are moved at the TDL it'll give both NHL ice time the final 3rd of the season.

 

[AZviaNJ]

You should really admire what he's squeezing out of Edmonton, then...

may even squeeze McDrai out of Edmonton