Fantasy GM Thread | Miller Lite

[Diversification]

It would make more sense for Barzal to be the odd man out in that case instead of Dobson.

If they sign Kadri as rumored, I think it closes the door on NYI as a Miller destination. Can't see them signing 2 30-ish centers to long term contracts.

 

[Petey O]

This team has done nothing this off-season except overpay Ilya Mikheyev.

Overpay?

 

[VanillaCoke]

Overpay?

Clearly.

 

[Johnny Canucker]

Overpay?

By 1.5M and 2 years. Yes.

 

[overboard]

The Jackets do look like a good fit for JT Miller - they could use a bona-fide #1 to centre Gudreau and Laine. And they seem to have a surplus of RHD.

However, they're tight up against the cap like we are - so any swaps would have to be pretty even on salary.

Considering how awful the market is right now for moving impact players, this is the kind of thing I could see being realistic:


To CBJ

JT Miller $5.25M


To VAN

Boone Jenner $3.75M
Andrew Peeke $787K
ALT: Nick Blankenburg $825K
Corson Ceulemans
2nd round pick


This is a straight-up hockey trade, addressing needs for both teams.

CBJ gets their #1 centre...and the best piece in the deal by far. So yeah, most folks will think we lose this one.

VAN gets Jenner who can play as a much-needed 3C, a RHD in either Peeke or Blankenburg (take your pick - whichever you think has the higher upside), a RHD prospect in Ceulemans that helps fill the prospect cupboard, and a 2nd.

If I were management, I would use the 2nd to try and send Poolman to ARI or some other taker. Open up some long-term cap flexibility (Poolman has the longest contract).

I know most posters here will be howling at what a sh!t return this is for a 100 point player, but I suspect this kind of deal will be the best this management group could achieve in this market.

There are a few notes / caveats to this deal:

It's pretty much a given that CBJ won't agree to move either of Kent Johnson or Cole Sillinger, so they are not part of this deal - even though many posters will insist they are part of it. Won't happen, IMO.

Jenner has back issues, so due diligence would have to be done on his health. Jack Roslovic is actually the better target as an asset, IMO, but he's from Ohio and I don't see the Jackets moving him either. Can't see him re-upping in Vancouver. So Jenner it is. Same age as JT.

Ceulemans could be replaced with another prospect...of which CBJ have many quality options. I chose him because he fits an area of need.

Most will want a 1st over a 2nd, but I think we'll be lucky to even get that.

________

FWIW, I'm not even necessarily advocating this trade - but I do want Miller moved. I like JTM, but committing to him long term will be a mistake.

IMO, management blew it when they didn't move him at the TDL. If folks want to see him traded before the season starts, expecting more than something like the above will lead to disappointment, methinks.

 

[Johnny Canucker]

Overpay?

This is literally not even debatable

 

[Vector]

This is literally not even debatable

I mean…it is. And has been. And several very smart posters have explained why they feel it is a fair deal.

Also, you already responded to their post. Just edit your post.

 

[MatthewMurdock]

This management team clearly stated they wanted to change the identity of the team. Mikheyev adds an element the team has lacked for years, did they potentially overpay? Maybe in a vacuum but they took a bet on a piece that can help share their vision of what they would like the team to look like.

I'm sure the armchair Gm's don't quite understand the value of speed, play driving, even strength production and defensive impact. It's the same reason Mason Raymond was so underrated by this fan base.

 

[me2]

It would make more sense for Barzal to be the odd man out in that case instead of Dobson.

Miller+Hughes for Barzal+Dobson.

Who says no in the second mega deal of the season?

 

[rypper]

Canucks: Brandon Sutter still stuck in COVID-19 long-hauler maze

'I’m a 100 per cent better than I was a year ago. But I still can’t train or work out. When I do too much, it just crushes me.' — Sutter

theprovince.com

Sutter has some ... interesting treatment ideas.

 

[Vector]

Canucks: Brandon Sutter still stuck in COVID-19 long-hauler maze

'I’m a 100 per cent better than I was a year ago. But I still can’t train or work out. When I do too much, it just crushes me.' — Sutter

theprovince.com

Sutter has some ... interesting treatment ideas.

Stupid. The word is stupid.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Stupid. The word is stupid.

Honestly, if I were in his shoes I don't think anything would be off the table for me. Not being able to work out even must be destroying him.

That being said, there's just something about taking horse dewormer that seems disgusting.

 

[Vector]

Honestly, if I were in his shoes I don't think anything would be off the table for me. Not being able to work out even must be destroying him.

That being said, there's just something about taking horse dewormer that seems disgusting.

Totally get it. Specifically taking poison that no credible doctor would recommend is what’s stupid. If he said he was using crystals healing aura to realign his chakra, I’d be more understanding.

 

[m9]

Totally get it. Specifically taking poison that no credible doctor would recommend is what’s stupid. If he said he was using crystals healing aura to realign his chakra, I’d be more understanding.

It's not poison. Lots of people take Ivermectin for perfectly legit reasons.

Unfortunately, treating Covid isn't one of them.

 

[Vector]

It's not poison. Lots of people take Ivermectin for perfectly legit reasons.

Unfortunately, treating Covid isn't one of them.

Aren’t those reasons to treat parasites? It’s a poison for parasites.

 

[Elitegrinder]

Miller+Hughes for Barzal+Dobson.

Who says no in the second mega deal of the season?

I’d be all over this!
I’d definitely trade our 2 yanks for 2 Canadians and sleep a little better with the latest departures of Tkachuk and Gaudreau….

 

[Joseph Nathan]

Miller+Hughes for Barzal+Dobson.

Who says no in the second mega deal of the season?

Lou and the islanders. Some of you really need to realize this isn't happening

The Jackets do look like a good fit for JT Miller - they could use a bona-fide #1 to centre Gudreau and Laine. And they seem to have a surplus of RHD.

However, they're tight up against the cap like we are - so any swaps would have to be pretty even on salary.

Considering how awful the market is right now for moving impact players, this is the kind of thing I could see being realistic:


To CBJ

JT Miller $5.25M


To VAN

Boone Jenner $3.75M
Andrew Peeke $787K
ALT: Nick Blankenburg $825K
Corson Ceulemans
2nd round pick


This is a straight-up hockey trade, addressing needs for both teams.

CBJ gets their #1 centre...and the best piece in the deal by far. So yeah, most folks will think we lose this one.

VAN gets Jenner who can play as a much-needed 3C, a RHD in either Peeke or Blankenburg (take your pick - whichever you think has the higher upside), a RHD prospect in Ceulemans that helps fill the prospect cupboard, and a 2nd.

If I were management, I would use the 2nd to try and send Poolman to ARI or some other taker. Open up some long-term cap flexibility (Poolman has the longest contract).

I know most posters here will be howling at what a sh!t return this is for a 100 point player, but I suspect this kind of deal will be the best this management group could achieve in this market.

There are a few notes / caveats to this deal:

It's pretty much a given that CBJ won't agree to move either of Kent Johnson or Cole Sillinger, so they are not part of this deal - even though many posters will insist they are part of it. Won't happen, IMO.

Jenner has back issues, so due diligence would have to be done on his health. Jack Roslovic is actually the better target as an asset, IMO, but he's from Ohio and I don't see the Jackets moving him either. Can't see him re-upping in Vancouver. So Jenner it is. Same age as JT.

Ceulemans could be replaced with another prospect...of which CBJ have many quality options. I chose him because he fits an area of need.

Most will want a 1st over a 2nd, but I think we'll be lucky to even get that.

________

FWIW, I'm not even necessarily advocating this trade - but I do want Miller moved. I like JTM, but committing to him long term will be a mistake.

IMO, management blew it when they didn't move him at the TDL. If folks want to see him traded before the season starts, expecting more than something like the above will lead to disappointment, methinks.

Columbus isn't trading Boone Jenner. He's the leader especially after his extension.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Stupid. The word is stupid.

Foundational

He must still wear a helmet off the ice

 

[rypper]

It's not poison. Lots of horses take Ivermectin for perfectly legit reasons.

Unfortunately, treating Covid isn't one of them.

Fixed that for ya.

 

[Kryten]

Canucks: Brandon Sutter still stuck in COVID-19 long-hauler maze

'I’m a 100 per cent better than I was a year ago. But I still can’t train or work out. When I do too much, it just crushes me.' — Sutter

theprovince.com

Sutter has some ... interesting treatment ideas.

If there was any remaining doubt of Sutter being an absolute f***ing idiot. Oh well, lets go Brandon amirite

 

[Diversification]

Honestly, if I were in his shoes I don't think anything would be off the table for me. Not being able to work out even must be destroying

I understand where the ivermectin misinformation is coming from but what is this nonsense about lingering spike protein?

Anyhow, I wish him all the best and hope that he doesn’t undergo any treatments that make things worse.

 

[God]

i mean it makes sense that he isn't in game shape if he's putting ivermectin into his body

 

[Diversification]

Honestly, if I were in his shoes I don't think anything would be off the table for me. Not being able to work out even must be destroying

I understand where the ivermectin misinformation is coming from but what is this nonsense about lingering spike protein?

Anyhow, I wish him all the best and hope that he doesn’t undergo any treatments that make things worse.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Next Sutter will be drinking horse seamen to make up for protein deficiency.

 

[me2]

Honestly, if I were in his shoes I don't think anything would be off the table for me. Not being able to work out even must be destroying him.

That being said, there's just something about taking horse dewormer that seems disgusting.

While I don't in anyway condone the Covid crazies I think calling ivomectin horse dewormer is extremely disingenuous. (Insert joke about using it on other animals here). It's a genuine human medicine, used with great success for decades treating Onchocerciasis and other parasites (not viruses). It has proven track record of being very safe, people have to take it for years.